Comments Thread For: Bomac Backs Crawford For 'Top Five Pound For Pound Best Ever' If He Beats Spence, Charlo

[Sid-Knee]

I don't.

You don't know of the likes of Angott, Zivic, Ambers?

You don't know the likes of O' Brien, Corbett, Hall?

[Hustle]

You've never heard of Bob Fitzsimmons? You've never heard of Henry Armstrong? They're two of the greatest fighters the world of boxing has ever seen.

Lmaooo....There was only 1 belt in in Bob fitzsimmons era. The late 1800s. You never seen him fight. So miss me with that. Slavery had just ended 2 and a half decades prior to his reign.

And Henry Armstrong is also from the 1 belt era. Albeit the 1940s...So they will always rank higher due to 1 champ per division. To be the man you gotta beat the man in their eras.

But i'm talking 3 belt era to 4 belt era. Im talking about top 5 in his era of belts. I'm not talking about no boxer from the 1800s Sydney

[Sid-Knee]

Lmaooo....There was only 1 belt in in Bob fitzsimmons era. The late 1800s. You never seen him fight. So miss me with that. Slavery had just ended 2 and a half decades prior to his reign.

And Henry Armstrong is also from the 1 belt era. Albeit the 1940s...So they will always rank higher due to 1 champ per division. To be the man you gotta beat the man in their eras.

But i'm talking 3 belt era to 4 belt era. Im talking about top 5 in his era of belts. I'm not talking about no boxer from the 1800s Sydney

It doesn't matter if it's one belt, two belts, or a thousand that represents undisputed. In fact, most fans would rather go back to just the one belt so as not to be the ret3rd sport where there's many "Champions" in the same division.

You don't think they were the top men in the divisions they fought at? What? Yes, they were. Go and do some research please. Don't continue to embarrass yourself.

You said he'd be in the top 5 P4P in history. Don't try and pretend otherwise. Own it.

I've got to laugh though with you talking about beating the top fighters in your division when that's exactly what Bob and Henry did. That's why they're bona fide ATG's. Crawford beat Postal and a slew of bums and shot fighters to become undisputed at 140.

[Oregonian]

I mentioned that. I believe Danny Garcia had better wins at 140 than Crawford.

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My apologies. I may have overlooked that.

[BodyBagz]

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We are more likely to see Dud vs Horn 2

[Bronx2245]

You don't know of the likes of Angott, Zivic, Ambers?

You don't know the likes of O' Brien, Corbett, Hall?

Sorry, not familiar at all.

[Hustle]

It doesn't matter if it's one belt, two belts, or a thousand that represents undisputed. In fact, most fans would rather go back to just the one belt so as not to be the ret3rd sport where there's many "Champions" in the same division.

You don't think they were the top men in the divisions they fought at? What? Yes, they were. Go and do some research please. Don't continue to embarrass yourself.

You said he'd be in the top 5 P4P in history. Don't try and pretend otherwise. Own it.

I've got to laugh though with you talking about beating the top fighters in your division when that's exactly what Bob and Henry did. That's why they're bona fide ATG's. Crawford beat Postal and a slew of bums and shot fighters to become undisputed at 140.

You're reading comprehension is terrible. I guess you didn't read the part where I clearly said that they were in the era where you gotta beat the man to be the man and they did that. Which makes them rank higher.

As fas as bud goes. There is clearly a undisputed list that doesn't have Henry or Bob on it. And that's the 4 belt era undisputed list. That's what I'm talking about. The unification era. Nobody has ever been undisputed in 3 weight classes in this era of boxing.

I don't discuss boxing from the 1800s. I wasn't there and there is no footage. I don't care about what you read in a book. You never seen any of fitzsimmons opponents to know if they are better or worse than postol. So miss me with the slavery era boxing comparison.

That's like discussing major league baseball players from the era without black players.

[Sid-Knee]

Sorry, not familiar at all.

Really? You've never studied the past fighters? You've never heard the name Lou Ambers mentioned before? Barney Ross? Fritzie Zivic? Surely you've heard of Heavyweight champion James J Corbett?

[Sid-Knee]

You're reading comprehension is terrible. I guess you didn't read the part where I clearly said that they were in the era where you gotta beat the man to be the man and they did that. Which makes them rank higher.

As fas as bud goes. There is clearly a undisputed list that doesn't have Henry or Bob on it. And that's the 4 belt era undisputed list. That's what I'm talking about. The unification era. Nobody has ever been undisputed in 3 weight classes in this era of boxing.

I don't discuss boxing from the 1800s. I wasn't there and there is no footage. I don't care about what you read in a book. You never seen any of fitzsimmons opponents to know if they are better or worse than postol. So miss me with the slavery era boxing comparison.

That's like discussing major league baseball players from the era without black players.

Actually, you're right. I read the part where you say "They will always rank higher due to one champ per division" as you meaning one title isn't as good as 4 so Crawford is the one who will rank higher. Had i continued reading the sentence and see the word "Their" it would clear things up. My bad.

But the point is, you said there weren't any other 3 weight undisputed champs. That was wrong. Whether or not they were good fighters or not who they beat is besides the point. The point is, they were undisputed in 3 weight classes.

I think being a Middleweight and fighting the Natural Heavyweight who is the champion goes a long way in describing how the challenge is a whole lot more than a Victor Postal. Just a tad. There's a reason why he's the only one in history to have achieved it. Many have tried. All have failed. The best on offer is a Toney who beat John Ruiz for a title only to be stripped for being on the Juice, and Roy doing the same in beating Ruiz but didn't fail a test. But Ruiz wasn't the man of the division. James J Corbett was.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

That's crazy talk. Bud is an excellent fighter but hasn't yet proved himself the best in his own division . This guy sounds more like a cheerleader . Buds resume is not solid enough to even start that conversation. I'm sure Leonard , Duran and Hearns would have things to say there maybe even Pryor , Benetiz and Curry. All the aforementioned would fight anyone , Bud just chose not to fight his biggest rival. Hard to compare !

People like you are willing to claim Crawford hasn't proved himself in this division but unwilling to point out the obvious fact that he was being black balled the moment he got in the division.

Crawford on top of his world titles he's won during his career......he's also a 2x LINEAL CHAMPION. All these fake boxing fans don't know what that means apparently.

And my question is.....who in the division has "proved" themself to be the top guy?.....Spence?.....He continues to fight names who lost to other names on his way to create a legacy. Porter and Danny both failed to take the WBC title from Thurman.....but ended up fighting each other for that same title after Thurman was stripped of it for inactivity. Spence has openly said that he has zero interest in a fight vs Thurman for 4 years now......yet he was willing to fight 2 individuals who lost to him....then fought Ugas....an individual who lost to Porter and was GIVEN his title after Manny was stripped of it. I guess we can give Ugas props for beating that same 42 year old Manny after being out of the ring for 2 years due to his political duties.

At the end of the day.....regardless of everyone's emotions on Crawford or Spence.....what BoMac said is 100% true..... If Crawford who already has Undisputed on his resume, is able to get passed Spence to become Undisputed in a 2nd division, then follows that up with beating Charlo to become Undisputed in a 3rd division......Top 5 p4p all time.....there isn't an argument to leave him out........Again.....he would have to get that done though.