What was Pacquiao s hardest opponent?

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  • daggum
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    #41
    Originally posted by Hustle

    I agree it was a stinker on both sides. But it was still clear who was better.

    Pac was right there with Marquez through 42 rounds. He was sinking against Floyd in 12 rounds.

    Pac will tell you out his mouth Floyd is the most difficult and that's even after being flatlined by Dinamita
    how was floyd clearly better? pac landed the much cleaner punches. there are videos that prove this. a slow paced fight doesnt mean floyd auto wins. watch it again and see whose head is getting rocked around(floyds) and whose punches barely connect(floyd) even most of floyds "clean" shots had nothing on them and were more like touches then punches compared to pacs which clearly made hard contact on floyds head and body.



    round 1: easy floyd round, pac does nothing

    round 2: very close round, i just gave it to floyd but pac started figuring out what to do

    round 3: clear pac round, landed all the hard shots with floyd struggling to land anything but grazing reach out and touch you type jabs, horrible judging

    round 4: dominant pac round hurting floyd and pummeling him

    round 5: clear floyd round where pac seemingly took the round off

    round 6: clear pac round hurting floyd again and dominating

    round 7: clear pac round, floyd lands 1 good jab and some reach out and touch you jabs, no power shots while pac lands 2 big power shots, 3 head rocking jabs, and some floyd type crappy unclean punches. judges of course screwed this round up and gave it to floyd? a microcosm of the fight.

    round 8: somewhat close round but pac landed more power shots and even buckled floyds legs. definitely scoring it to pac for the better punches and hurting his opponent

    round 9: pretty close round but pac again with the better quality shots and more power shots

    round 10: dominant pac round

    round 11: pac wins first 2 minutes but floyd rallies with good quality shots in final minute to win it clearly

    round 12: very close round, ill give it to floyd barely



    there was no sinking. bad scoring yes, no sinking.
    Last edited by daggum; 05-01-2023, 05:40 PM.

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    • Hustle
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      #42
      Originally posted by daggum

      how was floyd clearly better? pac landed the much cleaner punches. there are videos that prove this. a slow paced fight doesnt mean floyd auto wins. watch it again and see whose head is getting rocked around(floyds) and whose punches barely connect(floyd) even most of floyds "clean" shots had nothing on them and were more like touches then punches compared to pacs which clearly made hard contact on floyds head and body.



      round 1: easy floyd round, pac does nothing

      round 2: very close round, i just gave it to floyd but pac started figuring out what to do

      round 3: clear pac round, landed all the hard shots with floyd struggling to land anything but grazing reach out and touch you type jabs, horrible judging

      round 4: dominant pac round hurting floyd and pummeling him

      round 5: clear floyd round where pac seemingly took the round off

      round 6: clear pac round hurting floyd again and dominating

      round 7: clear pac round, floyd lands 1 good jab and some reach out and touch you jabs, no power shots while pac lands 2 big power shots, 3 head rocking jabs, and some floyd type crappy unclean punches. judges of course screwed this round up and gave it to floyd? a microcosm of the fight.

      round 8: somewhat close round but pac landed more power shots and even buckled floyds legs. definitely scoring it to pac for the better punches and hurting his opponent

      round 9: pretty close round but pac again with the better quality shots and more power shots

      round 10: dominant pac round

      round 11: pac wins first 2 minutes but floyd rallies with good quality shots in final minute to win it clearly

      round 12: very close round, ill give it to floyd barely



      there was no sinking. bad scoring yes, no sinking.
      You having pac winning 8 rounds is all I need to know. Hbo didnt even have pac winning and he was there fighter.

      Pac clearly loss to floyd. Pac never clearly loss to Marquez until the 4th fight.

      Floyd is the tougher opponent, not marquez. Pac was able to put marquez down over and over. Marquez just kept getting up. Pac would never be able to drop mayweather because he won't touch him enough to do it.
      Last edited by Hustle; 05-01-2023, 06:20 PM.

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      • BoxingParadigm
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        #43
        It has to be JMM and Mayweather. Toughest fight might be different, but those two stand out as particularly difficult opponents for Pacquiao.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Mike_b
          Why would he lunge in with his hands down all knowing that Marquez was a fierce counterpuncher ?
          Lol no boxer gets knocked out cold on purpose.

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            #45
            Originally posted by shawnkemp804

            Lol no boxer gets knocked out cold on purpose.
            I stand corrected

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              #46
              Originally posted by Hustle

              I agree it was a stinker on both sides. But it was still clear who was better.

              Pac was right there with Marquez through 42 rounds. He was sinking against Floyd in 12 rounds.

              Pac will tell you out his mouth Floyd is the most difficult and that's even after being flatlined by Dinamita
              It just wasn't a washed for me... it was an 8-4 fight at best and a few punches separating them each round.. logically floyd should be his toughest fight given how great floyd is (boxing skills and style), plus his reach and size advantages (he's naturally bigger) over pac... but when it comes to Marquez, he struggled against an old version who happens to be a bit smaller than him and way slower.

              i thought an old Marquez beat a better version of Pacquiao in their 3rd fight decisively with only Pacquiao's motor and workrate convinced the judges otherwise.

              so I look at it that way, Floyd who is way better and a bit bigger didn't washed a torn down pacquiao (already been Koed, No KOs in 5 years). but an old marquez made it hell against a prime one.

              Granted floyd is still older, his style still ages better as he has a conservative offense rate and gets limited wear and tear as he doesn't really go to war.

              On paper floyd should be his toughest fight, but on what happened in the ring, it was Marquez.

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              • djtmal
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                #47
                Marquez

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                • Shadoww702
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Leicesterage
                  Easy answer. Disappointed none of you got it right.

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                  Yup! Pac's hand hurt real bad...

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #49
                    I think jmm was pacs hardest. 4 attempts and couldn't ko him. And the only real fighter who pac beat whose win was really deemed controversial. But jm m did say pac was pfp the best of era.
                    The trickiest might be floyd though, but I can't speak on behalf of pac. Pac did say of the floyd fight that he beat floyd, floyd didn't do anything
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 05-02-2023, 05:33 PM.

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                    • Roadblock
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Hustle

                      You having pac winning 8 rounds is all I need to know. Hbo didnt even have pac winning and he was there fighter.

                      Pac clearly loss to floyd. Pac never clearly loss to Marquez until the 4th fight.

                      Floyd is the tougher opponent, not marquez. Pac was able to put marquez down over and over. Marquez just kept getting up. Pac would never be able to drop mayweather because he won't touch him enough to do it.
                      He cant score for sht especially the areas of ring generalship and control, Floyd won the fight Ive never seen Manny so lost, 2 others come to mind that were just as lost JMM and Canelo, the only people saying Floyd lost are Manny fangirls that cant face reality even Mannys closest trainers and cohorts all say Manny lost.

                      At the end of the day its not even about the fight its about being real and the few Manny fangirls that are always talking sht are anything but being real.

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