So Joshua vs Wilder is happening in December in Saudi Arabia??

[Zelda]

Is this fight going to happen??

At this point, it is merely a possibility being discussed. Nothing concrete yet but there is certainly an interest. Let's see if it works out and if the finances are good enough to satisfy all parties.

[Marchegiano]

Wilder's gonna knock AJ into retirement.

[Sid-Knee]

AJ hasn't got the minerals to get get Wilder to fight going backwards

Why do you think AJ needs to push him back? Wilder isn't good on the front foot or controlling distance at centre ring.

As for minerals... We're talking about the biggest coward in history in Wilder and AJ, the fighter who ducked no one from pretty much the get go. I don't care about the propaganda being spoken or wishful thinking. I care only about the reality.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Wilder is a bum and Joshua beats him every day. Only Fury diehards hype Wilder to look Fury`s miserable record look better.

Joshua has fought nearly everybody in this era except two the biggest cowards in Wilder and Fury. Joshua fought Usyk twice. Only morons believe Joshua is scared, lol.

[deathofaclown]

Why do you think AJ needs to push him back? Wilder isn't good on the front foot or controlling distance at centre ring.

As for minerals... We're talking about the biggest coward in history in Wilder and AJ, the fighter who ducked no one from pretty much the get go. I don't care about the propaganda being spoken or wishful thinking. I care only about the reality.

Wilder is the best in the division at closing distance fast and landing a big shot, so you really need to try to push him backwards so he can't do it.

AJ hasn't got the distance control skills needed to negate Wilder when he gets into range. Nor has he got the know how to rough him up with veteran tactics.

AJ will be a sitting duck for Wilder and get nailed.

Of course, we don't really know what both fighters have left. AJ hasn't looked in any way explosive for a while, and Wilder is nearly 38 and we've been 90 seconds of his since those brutal beatings.

But as long as Wilder can pull the trigger, AJ doesn't see round 4. Styles make fightes and Wilder is a horrible match up for AJ.

[Sid-Knee]

Wilder is the best in the division at closing distance fast and landing a big shot, so you really need to try to push him backwards so he can't do it.

AJ hasn't got the distance control skills needed to negate Wilder when he gets into range. Nor has he got the know how to rough him up with veteran tactics.

AJ will be a sitting duck for Wilder and get nailed.

Of course, we don't really know what both fighters have left. AJ hasn't looked in any way explosive for a while, and Wilder is nearly 38 and we've been 90 seconds of his since those brutal beatings.

But as long as Wilder can pull the trigger, AJ doesn't see round 4. Styles make fightes and Wilder is a horrible match up for AJ.

Wilder doesn't close the distance though. He badly telegraphs his right hand from too far out. That's a counter punchers dream. He most certainly doesn't control it. He's out and out terrible at doing so.

AJ can control distance at a high level. If it's an awkward style, then it becomes more of a problem. But with an upright and tall opponent with no defence, then he's going to be on top of his game with that style.

Bums haven't been a sitting duck where Wilder is concerned when at his absolute best. But Wilder when in against a decent fighter or better? Yeah, he's mostly a sitting duck. That's when his lack of skill and fragile mind really shows itself.

AJ dominated a fighter who is actually quite cute in there and isn't an easy target considering AJ had to punch down. Then you add in his lack of activity where AJ had to do most of the leading. That's isn't a straight forward job, especially when coming off two defeats. Wilder on the other hand had the perfect cherry pick in a fighter who is tall, falls over his feet all the time, has been shot for over a decade, has no chin any more. And then had AL keep him out of the ring for over a year to shut any momentum he had down. It was beyond careful matchmaking. Like his whole career. They had no ambition even though they said it was big fights from here on out.

AJ doesn't see round 4, but all those bums did? Wilder is made for AJ in every way. A world class fighter with skill is not what Wilder can deal with. He hasn't thus far. He won't when it's all said and done. It will be "Wilder was shot but he'd win if he was prime" nonsense after it's happened.

I still don't know if Wilder is going to go for this though. It all comes down to whether he thinks he has enough money in the bank or not. But for Shirly and Haymon, they want this cash-out money. They don't care to protect him any longer. This was the plan all along for them. For Wilder though, it was about ducking everyone and living in a delusional fantasy world. Shirly and Al don't care for him to live that fantasy any more. Wilder feels it too which is why he lashed out at them and ran when he knew they were setting up the Ruiz fight.

His delusions get completely broken if he goes through with this. I don't think his ego can allow it to happen though. But, we'll see. I know all the talk will come. It's the usual lack of action that's always been his problem.

[deathofaclown]

Wilder doesn't close the distance though. He badly telegraphs his right hand from too far out. That's a counter punchers dream. He most certainly doesn't control it. He's out and out terrible at doing so.

AJ can control distance at a high level. If it's an awkward style, then it becomes more of a problem. But with an upright and tall opponent with no defence, then he's going to be on top of his game with that style.

Bums haven't been a sitting duck where Wilder is concerned when at his absolute best. But Wilder when in against a decent fighter or better? Yeah, he's mostly a sitting duck. That's when his lack of skill and fragile mind really shows itself.

AJ dominated a fighter who is actually quite cute in there and isn't an easy target considering AJ had to punch down. Then you add in his lack of activity where AJ had to do most of the leading. That's isn't a straight forward job, especially when coming off two defeats. Wilder on the other hand had the perfect cherry pick in a fighter who is tall, falls over his feet all the time, has been shot for over a decade, has no chin any more. And then had AL keep him out of the ring for over a year to shut any momentum he had down. It was beyond careful matchmaking. Like his whole career. They had no ambition even though they said it was big fights from here on out.

AJ doesn't see round 4, but all those bums did? Wilder is made for AJ in every way. A world class fighter with skill is not what Wilder can deal with. He hasn't thus far. He won't when it's all said and done. It will be "Wilder was shot but he'd win if he was prime" nonsense after it's happened.

I still don't know if Wilder is going to go for this though. It all comes down to whether he thinks he has enough money in the bank or not. But for Shirly and Haymon, they want this cash-out money. They don't care to protect him any longer. This was the plan all along for them. For Wilder though, it was about ducking everyone and living in a delusional fantasy world. Shirly and Al don't care for him to live that fantasy any more. Wilder feels it too which is why he lashed out at them and ran when he knew they were setting up the Ruiz fight.

His delusions get completely broken if he goes through with this. I don't think his ego can allow it to happen though. But, we'll see. I know all the talk will come. It's the usual lack of action that's always been his problem.

If you think Wilder isn't very skilled at closing range fast, you know know little about boxing.

Its not about telegraphing right hands, it barely matters because he closes range too fast for most heavyweights today. You need to be very quick to take a step back to either make him fall short and counter or tie him up. Fury can do that, Wlad would've had success with that because he was good at that slight step back out of range, Haye was too.

That's not in AJ's capabilities to judge it well enough and he would get nailed.

You know nothing about boxing, its well established you're a AJ fan boy and been embarrassed many times by overestimating his level and ability and would be again. I'm tired of chasing you out of threads because you know nothing about the technical aspects of boxing.

I bet you thought AJ was gonna smash Usyk, when the likes of me were telling the likes of you he has a very slim chance of winning.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Wilder doesn't close the distance though. He badly telegraphs his right hand from too far out. That's a counter punchers dream. He most certainly doesn't control it. He's out and out terrible at doing so.

AJ can control distance at a high level. If it's an awkward style, then it becomes more of a problem. But with an upright and tall opponent with no defence, then he's going to be on top of his game with that style.

Bums haven't been a sitting duck where Wilder is concerned when at his absolute best. But Wilder when in against a decent fighter or better? Yeah, he's mostly a sitting duck. That's when his lack of skill and fragile mind really shows itself.

AJ dominated a fighter who is actually quite cute in there and isn't an easy target considering AJ had to punch down. Then you add in his lack of activity where AJ had to do most of the leading. That's isn't a straight forward job, especially when coming off two defeats. Wilder on the other hand had the perfect cherry pick in a fighter who is tall, falls over his feet all the time, has been shot for over a decade, has no chin any more. And then had AL keep him out of the ring for over a year to shut any momentum he had down. It was beyond careful matchmaking. Like his whole career. They had no ambition even though they said it was big fights from here on out.

AJ doesn't see round 4, but all those bums did? Wilder is made for AJ in every way. A world class fighter with skill is not what Wilder can deal with. He hasn't thus far. He won't when it's all said and done. It will be "Wilder was shot but he'd win if he was prime" nonsense after it's happened.

I still don't know if Wilder is going to go for this though. It all comes down to whether he thinks he has enough money in the bank or not. But for Shirly and Haymon, they want this cash-out money. They don't care to protect him any longer. This was the plan all along for them. For Wilder though, it was about ducking everyone and living in a delusional fantasy world. Shirly and Al don't care for him to live that fantasy any more. Wilder feels it too which is why he lashed out at them and ran when he knew they were setting up the Ruiz fight.

His delusions get completely broken if he goes through with this. I don't think his ego can allow it to happen though. But, we'll see. I know all the talk will come. It's the usual lack of action that's always been his problem.

Good Post, Wilder is not the best in the division at closing the distance.

Tyson Fury although he is not a sole pressure fighter, has shown that he is the best Heavyweight at closing the distance.

Fury's whole game vs Wilder I & II was about closing the distance. Wilder's game vs Fury, was not entirely about closing the distance 'Wilder is content to sit back, and attempt to be a boxer puncher or counter puncher. Who sporadically will explode into attacks of pure sustained violence, were he is usually making many technical mistakes but? His opponents can be intimidated by the power and aggression, to the point were they do not capitalize on these mistakes.

Fury knew this and did not back down, took risks and continually punished Wilder for his unforced errors 'But Wilder due to his aggression, also punished Fury for his unforced error's'.

Wilder has never EVER been a pressure fighter. So I am honestly not sure what aspect of Wilder's game deathoftheclown is referring to.

Note: People seem to be overlooking Joshua's jab, and that he is a solid super Heavyweight 'Possible well I think he has more punching power than Fury'.

Tyson Fury has never been regarded as a big puncher, in fact it has always been classed as one of the worst area's of his game. And I still don't think Fury is a big puncher, proven by the fact that he was unable to deck or legitimately knock-out a semi-retied miles out of condition Derek Chisora.

Fury's two stoppage performances vs Wilder and Whyte for me are somewhat of a anomaly, and maybe factors such as fatigued lead to Wilder being sparked out 'Whyte had been ****** out many times before, and theoretically was burnt out by the time he fought Fury'.

I don't necessarily think Joshua has to fight Wilder, the same way Fury did. I believe many boxing analysts and fans would agree that Joshua can out box Wilder, and he can possibly hurt Wilder on a round to round basis more so than Fury 'So when you combine those two factors, YES Wilder will be dangerous. But for as long as the fight last, Wilder may well be being beaten up by Jab's and Mid-range attacks'.

Joshua is a solid Super Heavyweight, this is a difficult fight for Wilder as it is for Joshua.

And I actually think Tyson Fury is more error prone, and technically unrefined than Joshua. Fury vs Wilder III displayed this, skill for skill both fighters were making unforced errors from round two on wards, and they were badly fatigued 'Tyson Fury throughout his entire career has also been decked and busted up more times than Joshua, even though he has predominately outside of Kiltschko & Wilder fought at domestic to high end European level etc'.

deathofaclown

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Wilder is a bum and Joshua beats him every day. Only Fury diehards hype Wilder to look Fury`s miserable record look better.

Joshua has fought nearly everybody in this era except two the biggest cowards in Wilder and Fury. Joshua fought Usyk twice. Only morons believe Joshua is scared, lol.

A bum that knocks Joshua clean out, do a public poll on here and check out the results, i gurantee that the vast majority pick Wilder to KO him, the only people who think that Joshua wins are Matchroom casuals like yourself.

AJ can only dream of having a name like Deontay Wilder on his resume, he's only good enough to beat the Pulevs and Povetkins of this world.

[Willow The Wisp]

Haha, yeah. It's been AJ ducking the whole division his entire career. Wilder has fought nothing but the best. Well, if you're as delusional as Wilder you'll see it that way.

No, what's happened is Shirly and Al are not protecting the coward any more and really want that cash-out money. This is the process of nearly every American fighter in predictable fashion. They've made all they can with his bum fights. Now it's time to make as much as possible. But will Wilder take this fight, that's the question. Does he feel he has enough money in his life. If he does, then his narcissism and cowardice will never allow himself to be knocked out again. He thought he had it all sown up with what he thought to be a shot Fury. The rest as they say, is history.

He even ran from Ruiz and wanted the typical cherry pick over an MMA fighter. The dude is frightened. Always has been. Oh, and he's an unskilled bum with no world class wins to his name in all his pathetic "Career". He's also detached from reality in a scary way. But i hope he takes it because i want to see him seriously hurt. He deserves it. The Fury beatings satisfy only part of it. Now we need some proper violence committed against him.

Well, It's heartwarming to know that not all of A.J.s fans have abandoned him, his having lost 10.71% of every time he's ever stepped in the ring as a pro.
Although I acknowledge that Joshua is still a Supreme talent and that any fighter can stumble on occasion and most so; I feel that Wilder is the worst possible style for Joshua, and if Hearn wants Wilder, the competing former titleholder who knocked down or blew away everyone he's ever faced, and scored a total of 8 knockdowns over two of the best of his generation. Now; when you infer that Joshua has fought "Better Opponents " than Wilder has, we know you cannot be talking about a 40+ yo on a one-off comback or fighters who handed AJ a loss....so what then? Joseph Parker?? X3 Fury and Ortiz are much better.

The anti-American stuff; we tend to ignore that. Wait till you get a load of the Chinese when they rule you. You'll miss the USA then.