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  • Willow The Wisp
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    #21
    Originally posted by Sammy7861992

    Klitschko was old and coming off a poor performance, he got koed next fight , and that was 8 years ago , imagine buster Douglas decided not fight any top fighter after Tyson , imagine khan decided to not fight any top fight after barerra ,would they be consider goats than , he picked Klitschko and wilder at the right time , wilder nearly got murdered by Ortiz apart from the one punch KO ,I'm not saying fury isn't a good fighter , but to be in the top u need to keep trying fighting the best , which fury clearly doesn't do
    Not the best ever, but going 8-0-1 against the 20 best of the past 10 years is actually pretty excellent....

    During the past 10 Years:
    2013 - 2023

    1. Tyson Fury
    2. Deontay Wilder
    2. Deontay Wilder
    2. Deontay Wilder
    3. Oleksandr Usyk
    4. Wladimir Klitschko
    5. Anthony Joshua
    6. Zhilei Zhang
    7. Andy Ruiz Jr
    8. Luis Ortiz
    9. Alexander Povetkin
    10.Dillian Whyte
    11.Joe Joyce
    12.Daniel Dubois
    13.Filip Hrgovic
    14.Jarrell Miller
    15.Joseph Parker
    16.Kubrat Pulev
    17.Otto Wallin
    18.Frank Sanchez
    19.Robert Helenius
    20.Derek Chisora
    20.Derek Chisora
    20.Derek Chisora

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    • Roberto Vasquez
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      #22
      Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

      Not the best ever, but going 8-0-1 against the 20 best of the past 10 years is actually pretty excellent....

      During the past 10 Years:
      2013 - 2023

      1. Tyson Fury
      2. Deontay Wilder
      2. Deontay Wilder
      2. Deontay Wilder
      3. Oleksandr Usyk
      4. Wladimir Klitschko
      5. Anthony Joshua
      6. Zhilei Zhang
      7. Andy Ruiz Jr
      8. Luis Ortiz
      9. Alexander Povetkin
      10.Dillian Whyte
      11.Joe Joyce
      12.Daniel Dubois
      13.Filip Hrgovic
      14.Jarrell Miller
      15.Joseph Parker
      16.Kubrat Pulev
      17.Otto Wallin
      18.Frank Sanchez
      19.Robert Helenius
      20.Derek Chisora
      20.Derek Chisora
      20.Derek Chisora
      Fury has only fought TWO top-10 fighters in the last 7 years. Ducking Usyk was just standard Fury behaviour. Also Otto Wallin was ranked around 27 in the world when Fury fought him. And he still isn't in the top-10 now.

      Least all the outcry about Fury ducking Usyk has forced him to fight someone in the top-10 at least (Ruiz)

      Compare Derek Chisora's opponents with Fury. Then you will see someone at least 12 places below Fury in the rankings who doesn't duck people. Fury doesn't even have Povetkin and Pulev in his list - 2 of the top guys when Fury was fighting.

      Fury
      Fury
      Fury
      Pulev
      Pulev
      Parker
      Usyk
      Takam
      V.Klitchsko
      Haye
      Whyte
      Whyte
      Helenius (when he was good)
      Price (someone who Fury ducked because he lost to him in the amateurs)

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      • Superbee
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        #23
        If This Fight Does Not Take Place... Welp, then we all know Fury is ducking.... But we already knew that, right ?

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        • takenotes
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          #24
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

          Usyk has very rarely been involved in a underwhelming fight 'Because of his work rate and style'.

          Tyson Fury during his career, has been involved many more underwhelming fights.

          I honestly think you have a covert agenda, which is to endorse, allow and protect Tyson Fury from fighting his nearest competition.

          Note: Tyson Fury has been more of a dancer than Usyk in his career, Usyk's movement is mainly acute and intricate stepping motions 'He does not bounce around the ring, or stand 10 meters away from his opponent like Fury used to when? He was applying his old school riddler style'.

          You will have to change your tune regarding Usyk, when he is involved in a big fight outside of Joshua & Fury 'And I think Usyk can stage big fights without fighting them. Dubois vs Usyk is a by far bigger fight than people are anticipating etc'.
          I like Usyk as a fighter but I just do not find him exciting because I do not see him knocking anyone out or even down. Fury is boring too but together this will be worse than Fury and Wlad. Also Fury is the big draw here. Usyk is not gonna bring in the gate Fury will in UK

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          • Halama86
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            #25
            Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

            Not the best ever, but going 8-0-1 against the 20 best of the past 10 years is actually pretty excellent....

            During the past 10 Years:
            2013 - 2023

            1. Tyson Fury
            2. Deontay Wilder
            2. Deontay Wilder
            2. Deontay Wilder
            3. Oleksandr Usyk
            4. Wladimir Klitschko
            5. Anthony Joshua
            6. Zhilei Zhang
            7. Andy Ruiz Jr
            8. Luis Ortiz
            9. Alexander Povetkin
            10.Dillian Whyte
            11.Joe Joyce
            12.Daniel Dubois
            13.Filip Hrgovic
            14.Jarrell Miller
            15.Joseph Parker
            16.Kubrat Pulev
            17.Otto Wallin
            18.Frank Sanchez
            19.Robert Helenius
            20.Derek Chisora
            20.Derek Chisora
            20.Derek Chisora
            Lol those bolded names are not “pretty excellent.”

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              #26
              Originally posted by Willow The Wisp

              Lol. Moved on to what? Usyk and those plastic belts are irrelevant.
              Ok.

              But is still want to know if Fury beats Usyk.

              Beating a bum like Wilder doesn`t mean much.

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                #27
                Originally posted by takenotes
                Usyk is not a draw. Nobody is going to fork out millions to watch Usyk dance around for 12 rounds. He is not Wilder where he is gonna knock Fury down twice. He is going to try and be as mobile as possible and Fury is going to lean on him when he catches him. Does that really sound like a fun fight?
                That sounds like a fine excuse for Fury to fight Chisora the forth time lol.
                Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 04-29-2023, 07:48 AM.

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                • PRINCEKOOL
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                  #28
                  Today's date is April 29th.

                  And there is no Tyson Fury fight, or even a clear indication on who he is fighting next?

                  Nobody is asking too much of Fury, these are the requirements of being a WBC Heavyweight World Champion.

                  If Fury has a issue with these requirements, he best consider vacating his title 'So then he can run his games without as much criticism, while fighting as a contender'.

                  Note: I would say this month, should really reveal who Fury's next opponent will be if? That fighter is given the respect and dealt with in a professional manner, being notified well before the actual fight date 'So they can actually plan and participate in a elite level training camp' etc.
                  Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 04-29-2023, 12:05 PM.

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                  • juggernaut666
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    Today's date is April 29th.

                    And there is no Tyson Fury fight, or even a clear indication on who he is fighting next?

                    Nobody is asking too much of Fury, these are the requirements of being a WBC Heavyweight World Champion.

                    If Fury has a issue with these requirements, he best consider vacating his title 'So then he can run his games without as much criticism, while fighting as a contender'.

                    Note: I would say this month, should really reveal who Fury's next opponent will be if? That fighter is given the respect and dealt with in a professional manner, being notified well before the actual fight date 'So they can actually plan and participate in a elite level training camp' etc.
                    That’s not in Furys best interest at all , he’s not a champion mind set in fact he’s taking what Wilder has done a lot which is give opponents very short notice if he can . It’s why he through a fit when Usyk would not comply to the ridiculous December fight and was so unsure of himself he declined a late February fight with him and fought Chisora instead .

                    Funny no one is also talking about the April 29th date Fury demanded he fights on which happens to be today which is further proof this guy just spews bull Shyte 24/7.

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                    • Willow The Wisp
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez

                      Fury has only fought TWO top-10 fighters in the last 7 years. Ducking Usyk was just standard Fury behaviour. Also Otto Wallin was ranked around 27 in the world when Fury fought him. And he still isn't in the top-10 now.

                      Least all the outcry about Fury ducking Usyk has forced him to fight someone in the top-10 at least (Ruiz)

                      Compare Derek Chisora's opponents with Fury. Then you will see someone at least 12 places below Fury in the rankings who doesn't duck people. Fury doesn't even have Povetkin and Pulev in his list - 2 of the top guys when Fury was fighting.

                      Fury
                      Fury
                      Fury
                      Pulev
                      Pulev
                      Parker
                      Usyk
                      Takam
                      V.Klitchsko
                      Haye
                      Whyte
                      Whyte
                      Helenius (when he was good)
                      Price (someone who Fury ducked because he lost to him in the amateurs)
                      Usyk? Who's he? 3 close decisions and a win over semi retired Chazz Witherspoon? And a bunch of Plastic belts that trace their value back to.....Charles Martin?? Oleksandr was a great Cruiserweight and credit to him; but for world champion Tyson Fury, the money is far, far more for Joshua, Zhang. These are business decisions.

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