Comments Thread For: Calvin Ford: I Don't Think Haney Has Got Anything That Could Really Stop Tank

[Boricua181]

Neither Haney nor Shakur have anything that can stop Tank.

Their hope would be to try to beat him on points.

Not only don't Haney, or Stevenson have anything to stop Tank with, but they don't have enough power to keep him off them.
Tank isn't worried about his opponent's punching power, he's just going to track 'em down, corner'em, and then knock'em out.

[Hands of Stone]

The fight definitely makes sense, but I guess as always, they're talking dollars sense, milk as many millions as possible, while still in this sport.

Haney is a fair amount better than Ryan, no doubt, but Tank would have a good chance of beating Haney. Davis is very cerebral, takes his time and figures an opponent out.

Shakur is a different kettle of fish, more of a puzzle. I'm surprised that Shakur didn't win the Olympic gold medal, but ok, amateur fights and scoring is just different.

If we can get past the A-side stuff, I think both are great fights but I 'll favor Davis in both. People think becos Tank record knock outs, his KO's aren't calculated. He's as cerebal a KO artist as there is. He seem to know the right shots to deliver to get him the knock out. He is a thinking man in there despite his reputation for knock outs. Another thing I credit him for is his ability to close distance despite been the shorter man and when all seem to not be working, he knows how to come and get you and systematically chop you down. Sure his competition isn't Haney/Shakur like but neither of those have fought anybody of note yet, I reckon he will get to either one of them at some point especially with no respect for either's power and then the question becomes can they take his power. Those clinch and grab will not work much 'cos Davis don't allow you to fully lock him up and in those clinches he can deliver a devastating shot considering how low he is. I think he had trouble with Pitbull cos he was punching down as oppose to punching up where he couldn't apply much leverage. Interesting fights. let's hope it happens.

[Boricua181]

I think you might be wrong on this one. Both Haney and Stevenson use there power differently than Tank, but that doesn't mean they lack power to reach what they want to do to tank with the power they have. Sure tank has more power that's a fact that doesn't need discussing. Haney and Stevenson use there power to deter there opponent from advancing while doing what they need to do to gain points, While dissecting there opponents moves and countering there opponents in the process. Tank also has a lot of those traits but decides to use his power more and in a different way (aka find the knockout). It will be interesting to see if he digs into that portion of his bag of tricksand pulls out more of those traits in these fights when they happen.

Haney has enough power to stop Tank from advancing his gameplan, obviously I don't see Haney or Stevenson knocking tank down or out but that's not the way they fight anyway. Without a different approach Tank will have a lot of trouble with Haney, his usual stick and download info stick and download info and then go for the knockout might not work well with Haney and Stevenson to a degree he's going to have to add more to that gameplan and make it more complex to read.

I say Stevenson to a degree because Stevenson just barely arrived at 135lbs and we don't know how he will evolve into the 135lb class at this point just yet.

A great example of using your power to do what you want to an opponent that has more power then you is Floyd vs Canelo. No one can say Floyd has more power by any means but he has enough to slow Canelo down and to make Canelo think hey he hits harder then I thought, I cant just walk in and do what I want. This also makes the opponent start to think oh how can I adjust to this while all this is happening Floyd is raking in points. Most opponents really don't have that adjustment plan for a boxer that has deceptive power like Floyd and when they do find a plan its too late and Floyd switches plans a second time or third time. He also did this to Cotto. Cotto being a good boxer was able to adjust late in the middle round (pretty sure you saw that) but Floyd was able to adjust a round later and finish the fight without issue also while wobbling Cotto late in the last round.

I can be wrong on this one, just as you can be wrong yourself. We won't know until they face each other in a boxing ring.

[MONGOOSE66]

Haney doesn’t go out there looking to KO you. He will look to fight like a paranoid hummingbird on crack.
He will OUT POINT AND Hold Tank in a very boring and UGLY fight.

[TheOneAboveAll]

I disagree with Calvin Floyd. Devin Haney is both surgically, scientifically and more fundamentally sound than Ryan Garcia. He is also a masterful strategist with a very high ring IQ. In addition, he has a good jab and uses spacing, range, distancing and length as the naturally larger man; A whole lot better than R. Garcia does.

Ok, probably so, but Ryan Garcia wasn’t really competitive with Tank so saying Devin is better than Ryan isn’t really making a huge case that Devin beats Tank.

[jvsnypes]

I think Devin would be Tank’s most difficult opponent. He has great footwork and an excellent consistent jab. I have no problem seeing him winning a decision. But the reality is, no matter how skilled he is, Tank will still eventually get to him. Can Devin stand up to that type of freakish power??? 27 out of 29 opponents couldn’t, and I personally don’t think he could either, nor Shakur. Tank is that special fighter of this generation. He’s Ali, Leonard, and Mayweather. He is of that cloth. Both Devin and Shakur are A class fighters, but Tank is elite. He has that X factor that separates him from the rest.

[SweetPbfAli]

You see this all the time, the general population falling in love with a power puncher. I think all 3 are legit and wouldn't be surprised if they each could beat each other in a round robin. I hate when people reduce it to just power as if history isn't littered with instances of a power puncher running into someone that could take their power or disarmed them.

Tank has boxing skills, IQ and power. His issue with Haney and Shakur is that they also have IQ and skills but also have physical advantages and would likely use them to their benefit. I still think Shakur is going to be the better of them all and I favor him head to head over anyone at 135 but wouldn't be shocked if either of these guys beat the other

[crimsonfalcon07]

Gotta love the overlooking of Loma. What happens if Loma stops Haney? I think Shakur would beat Haney in any case, and I'm not convinced Tank gets in the ring with any of the top guys. Probably why he likes secondary titles so much, since they don't seem to care about mandatory obligations for that, so he can pretend he's a world champion.

[Tomasio]

Is not about stopping Davis, it's about beating Davis & Haney(whether he wins or looses against Lomachenko) has shown he was the Boxing knowledge that could beat a fighter like Davis.

[Boricua181]

I can be wrong on this one, just as you can be wrong yourself. We won't know until they face each other in a boxing ring.

I respect your honest reply, which show's an understanding for a difference of opinion. That anyone can be wrong, or right on a particular subject.