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  • chicken-
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    #11
    Originally posted by archiemoore1
    I'm glad Usyk moved on from Fury. Fury wanted to lowball Usyk to death, and basically treat him like sh.t. No amount of money is worth that type of disrespect.
    The splits vs Fury were slightly higher than he got vs AJ. It seems more neither were particularly excited about taking less money to fight in the UK regardless of the splits.

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    • Boxing 112
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      #12
      Originally posted by kafkod

      He did accept 30%. What he wouldn't accept is Fury getting 50% in the rematch even if he lost the first fight.
      You're not accepting 30 if it's on the basis of you only agreeing a split in the rematch that you can't agree on then you're back to square one. How people made it out was like he was some hero who has accepted 30 percent for the fight and no rematch. His manager then try to sell you that Fury wanted the rematch, maybe initially but he said no rematch publicly and his manager krassyk then said no we would not accept 30 percent without a rematch.

      Accepting 70/30 one fight and no rematch how many pictured it is not the same as saying we accept 70/30 BUT ONLY *whatever split they want to argue over in a rematch*


      In the end i think if they both win their summer fights then we will see it happen in Saudi in December. (But not buying into the AJ Wilder same card hype, that fight won't happen at all this year never mind the same card)
      Last edited by Boxing 112; 04-26-2023, 06:05 PM.

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        #13
        It could be on Saturn for all we care. The outcome is inevitable.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Boxing 112
          Usyk didn't want to accept the 30 percent (before you claim he did, he didn't,he only wanted to accept it if the split was the same rematch) they did not want to accept 30 percent and 1 fight only.

          Now he's got a choice between fighting in Poland (unlikely as they'll sell about 500 tickets) or fight in UK in front of a couple thousand. Either way shows the guy can't draw at all he should have accepted the 30 percent in front of a packed Wembley.
          Dubois can sell thousands of tickets fighting low level fighters on the come up, but he'll sell a lot less fighting for the Heavyweight championship of the world? Yeah, no.

          You're going to have to deal with the fall out of Fury getting clowned and embarrassing himself some other way because this really isn't it.

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          • kafkod
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            #15
            Originally posted by Boxing 112

            You're not accepting 30 if it's on the basis of you only agreeing a split in the rematch that you can't agree on then you're back to square one. How people made it out was like he was some hero who has accepted 30 percent for the fight and no rematch. His manager then try to sell you that Fury wanted the rematch, maybe initially but he said no rematch publicly and his manager krassyk then said no we would not accept 30 percent without a rematch.

            Accepting 70/30 one fight and no rematch how many pictured it is not the same as saying we accept 70/30 BUT ONLY *whatever split they want to argue over in a rematch*


            In the end i think if they both win their summer fights then we will see it happen in Saudi in December. (But not buying into the AJ Wilder same card hype, that fight won't happen at all this year never mind the same card)
            The original deal was 50/50 with a rematch clause that was asked for by Fury.

            Fury them moved the goalposts and demanded 70/30 or no fight.

            Usyk accepted 30% and Fury went on social media saying Usyk should sack his manager for agreeing to that lowball offer.

            Usyk wanted 70/30 to the winner of fight one in the rematch. Fury wanted 50% for himself in the rematch even if he lost the first fight.

            Usyk believed he was going to beat Fury. Fury wasn't so confident and he was trying to kill the fight by pricing himself out. Why else would he have told Usyk to sack his manager for agreeing to a 30% cut?
            Last edited by kafkod; 04-26-2023, 06:48 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee

              Dubois can sell thousands of tickets fighting low level fighters on the come up, but he'll sell a lot less fighting for the Heavyweight championship of the world? Yeah, no.

              You're going to have to deal with the fall out of Fury getting clowned and embarrassing himself some other way because this really isn't it.
              Like i said thousands in the uk yeah but we are talking smaller arena thousands he's not
              Poland they will sell hundreds if lucky

              Dubois has never sold big number all his main card fights have been in smaller arenas. Dubois Usyk will sell better than Dubois other fights in the UK but it won't be stadium levels he's not sold more than 10k.

              Point is it will be a lot less than a Fury fight and his 30 percent of that fight will be a lot more than how kuch he is going to get for Dubois fight even if they sell an arena in uk

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                #17
                Originally posted by Boxing 112

                Like i said thousands in the uk yeah but we are talking smaller arena thousands he's not
                Poland they will sell hundreds if lucky

                Dubois has never sold big number all his main card fights have been in smaller arenas. Dubois Usyk will sell better than Dubois other fights in the UK but it won't be stadium levels he's not sold more than 10k.

                Point is it will be a lot less than a Fury fight and his 30 percent of that fight will be a lot more than how kuch he is going to get for Dubois fight even if they sell an arena in uk
                The point is you said it would sell 2 thousand, which is insane considering it will be for the championship.

                Spin it for Fury as much as you want but i'm not interested. Fury made sure to shut the fight down and he succeeded. He's a punk who has embarrassed himself. All this after all his talk and slander towards AJ about only being in it for the money and that Usyk was nothing but a "Middleweight". AJ got in there twice. Fury can't even do it once. Fury exposed himself badly.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by kafkod

                  The original deal was 50/50 with a rematch clause that was asked for by Fury.

                  Fury them moved the goalposts and demanded 70/30 or no fight.

                  Usyk accepted 30% and Fury went on social media saying Usyk should sack his manager for agreeing to that lowball offer.

                  Usyk wanted 70/30 to the winner of fight one in the rematch. Fury wanted 50% for himself in the rematch even if he lost the first fight.

                  Usyk believed he was going to beat Fury. Fury wasn't so confident and he was trying to kill the fight by pricing himself out. Why else would he have told Usyk to sack his manager for agreeing to a 30% cut?
                  Fury said 70/30 and no rematch. Usyk demanded a rematch if he had to take the 70/30 which is why Fury wanted the 50/50 split in the rematch. If Fury has to waste another year of his career fighting and lose a massive paycheck against AJ then of course he would want a guaranteed 50% win or lose.

                  If Usyk was confident he would win he would have taken the 70/30 split and move on to his retirement fights against Wilder and AJ rematch. Fury didn't want a rematch win or lose so he could move on with his career.
                  The negotiations never looked good on Usyk's side which is why they had to resort to slurs.

                  Besides that we have 99% confirmation that negotiations were abandoned for a much bigger Saudi payday in December or 2024.

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                  • Boxing 112
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                    The point is you said it would sell 2 thousand, which is insane considering it will be for the championship.

                    Spin it for Fury as much as you want but i'm not interested. Fury made sure to shut the fight down and he succeeded. He's a punk who has embarrassed himself. All this after all his talk and slander towards AJ about only being in it for the money and that Usyk was nothing but a "Middleweight". AJ got in there twice. Fury can't even do it once. Fury exposed himself badly.
                    I didn't write 2 thousand. I wrote "couple housand" in the UK as in a Arena like wembley arena 8k, or 500 in Poland. Poland 500 might be too low but it'll def be dead af
                    Last edited by Boxing 112; 04-26-2023, 07:34 PM.

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                      #20
                      Poland? Not sure that is a good idea when they could probably make more in the UK…

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