Shane Mosley must of been on the **** here..............

[The_Demon]

check out david haye vs maccarinelli,he is in ****in ridiculous shape

[Haglerwins]

Look at the bulk that seems to come with the natural physiques posted, even if the same areas on each person aren't as defined you still see the girth on each that came with it. Mosley is a skinny man with bulging muscles, ripped to shreds. I usually only see definition that good on a relaxed figure when I'm going through my illustrated anatomy books. That's why I made that cartoon character reference.

[Dynamite Kid]

My point was geared more towards people thinking you can't have muscles naturally. That anybody with muscles is basically a steroid user. That's the way it seems many today view it because of all the doubt with today's athletes being caught with PED.

For Shane: What are you looking at exactly?

Shane Mosley must of been on the **** here.............man! look how big his arms & shoulders are FFS. This was taken at the Forrest vs Mosley weigh in. Look at the pick of MAB in my avator, now look at Mosley there.

It goes without saying that you can have muscles naturally, most of the guys on here probably have a degree of definition to their body without having worked out.

The whole thing really. I have worked out for years and can pretty much spot 90% of the time who is on gear.

This is an earlier picture of Shane and look at the difference, lets not forget that there is no smoke without fire either, its not like its not something he has been found guilty for already.



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[Benny Leonard]

It goes without saying that you can have muscles naturally, most of the guys on here probably have a degree of definition to their body without having worked out.

The whole thing really. I have worked out for years and can pretty much spot 90% of the time who is on gear.

This is an earlier picture of Shane and look at the difference, lets not forget that there is no smoke without fire either, its not like its not something he has been found guilty for already.

He is lighter in one picture???


Some athletes have also turned to steroids at a certain point in time even after they had a great physique and are/were on top.
Whenever there is a shake-up in confidence for instance even the best can fall into the trap of using PED.
Boxing has a lot of this with regards to confidence. And of course, moving up in weight.

He used PED...no question about it. He admitted to it. But when did he start? not sure.

[Dynamite Kid]

He is lighter in one picture???


Some athletes have also turned to steroids at a certain point in time even after they had a great physique and are/were on top.
Whenever there is a shake-up in confidence for instance even the best can fall into the trap of using PED.
Boxing has a lot of this with regards to confidence. And of course, moving up in weight.

He used PED...no question about it. He admitted to it. But when did he start? not sure.

I would say after the first Forrest defeat.

[Benny Leonard]

Look at the bulk that seems to come with the natural physiques posted, even if the same areas on each person aren't as defined you still see the girth on each that came with it. Mosley is a skinny man with bulging muscles, ripped to shreds. I usually only see definition that good on a relaxed figure when I'm going through my illustrated anatomy books. That's why I made that cartoon character reference.

Stocky people do seem to have an advantage in gaining muscle size. They also seem to have the advantage in getting fat as well if they don't workout although they don't tend to ever get flabby fat like many others.

[street bully]

Mosley has been ripped like a mofo since his highschool days. He was a former weight lifer.

[Benny Leonard]

I would say after the first Forrest defeat.

Since boxing doesn't have a mandatory year round unannounced drug testing system in place (which it should), if I were his opponent I would have him sign in the contract that he can/will be tested unannounced at anytime leading up to the fight including the day of the fight. Blood test is allowed at certain points in training and of course, urine and hair throughout. Testing during training camp, and then before and after the fight.
Of course, both parties would have to agree to be put under the same testing system. Fair is Fair.

Actually, if a fighter is "natural," I would advise him to do this with all his opponents. When you are a top fighter you should have the sense to do this just in case your opponent tries to cheat. Of course, there are still ways around the testing system with undetectable steroids but it's better than nothing.

[Piper the Great]

is that when he was at 135?

maybe his muscles look bigger because off how much water he cut.

this is what im thinking b/c he wasnt this cut in the fight.

& that mother****er looking like he belong on x men

[Dynamite Kid]

Since boxing doesn't have a mandatory year round unannounced drug testing system in place (which it should), if I were his opponent I would have him sign in the contract that he can/will be tested unannounced at anytime leading up to the fight including the day of the fight. Blood test is allowed at certain points in training and of course, urine and hair throughout. Testing during training camp, and then before and after the fight.
Of course, both parties would have to agree to be put under the same testing system. Fair is Fair.

Actually, if a fighter is "natural," I would advise him to do this with all his opponents. When you are a top fighter you should have the sense to do this just in case your opponent tries to cheat. Of course, there are still ways around the testing system with undetectable steroids but it's better than nothing.

This is a picture of Shane where he is more defined and in the correct light, but there still seems to be a disparity between the two imo.
http://www.imagesocket.com/view/shanef91.jpg