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  • hugh grant
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    #101
    Originally posted by Kzbox

    People are allowed their opinions but I've never claimed that i think new age vs historical fighters is a dumb concept which can never be proven either way.

    Boxing fans are just predictable once Fury beats Zhang it will be "Zhang is a 40 year old lumbering oaf who had a draw with a no name called jerry forest and beat a no skilled Joyce" then on to the next one it's just boring. I see why people dislike fury the dude is a diva these days and nutcase but to deny his boxing skills is just ******.
    Well, fury has to fight zhang type guys. Lots of potential fights but not much action, so we don't really know who's greater, and we can only imagine. I mean Jared Anderson might best everyone, but how do we know if nobody fights anyone.
    So I think it's politics of boxing to blame for some people's imagination running away
    Last edited by hugh grant; 04-22-2023, 07:54 PM.

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    • Kzbox
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      #102
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      Well, fury has to fight zhang type guys. Lots of potential fights but not much action, so we don't really know who's greater, and we can only imagine. I mean Jared Anderson might best everyone, but how do we know if nobody fights anyone.
      So I think it's politics of boxing to blame for some people's imagination running away
      My point is there will always be a new guy who comes out of the woodworks with a fluke win or as a new contender Zhang was a nobody 6 months ago now Fury just has to beat this man to get credit? Let's see what he can do with somebody else before being pitted against the top heavyweight and slow down the hype.

      He beat Whytes ass before his last fight and got 0 credit for it he was rated well higher than Zhang at the time so the logic just doesn't compute with me.

      It just seems to me people are just looking for reasons to dismiss Fury at this point just because the Usyk fight didn't happen which Usyk was partly to blame for with the same old "ChIsORa 4 WhEn" jokes its all just a little boring at this stage at least for me.

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      • HeadShots
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        #103
        Originally posted by Kzbox

        If you say so fella Zhang just got the hype atm and the band wagon jumpers are on board fair play. People can be as biased as they want against Fury due to his ****ery outside the ring and his new businessman like ways fact is he's much better/quicker/more skilled than Zhang he will make him look a fool.
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

        the beta cuckold is back at it once more

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        • Kzbox
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          #104
          Originally posted by HeadShots

          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

          the beta cuckold is back at it once more
          You're an idiot man least Hugh is willing to have a discussion about it and argue the point you just repeat the same **** every time get a new joke kid.
          Last edited by Kzbox; 04-22-2023, 08:17 PM.

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          • hugh grant
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            #105
            Originally posted by Kzbox

            My point is there will always be a new guy who comes out of the woodworks with a fluke win or as a new contender Zhang was a nobody 6 months ago now Fury just has to beat this man to get credit? Let's see what he can do with somebody else before being pitted against the top heavyweight and slow down the hype.

            He beat Whytes ass before his last fight and got 0 credit for it he was rated well higher than Zhang at the time so the logic just doesn't compute with me.

            It just seems to me people are just looking for reasons to dismiss Fury at this point just because the Usyk fight didn't happen which Usyk was partly to blame for with the same old "ChIsORa 4 WhEn" jokes its all just a little boring at this stage at least for me.
            Well there will always be somebody to fight, who people think can beat you. I don't think Zhang was a nobody 6 months ago, it's just people underestimated him too and overlooked him.
            Fury would get credit for beating zhang. Zhang at least not as easy to beat as white was. Zhang beat joyce, and people dismissing that win also. So Zhang got his detractors also.

            All fury can do is keep fighting and winning then the critics criticisms will seem less plausable. Once fury fights and beats usyk people won't be so harsh on fury
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            Last edited by hugh grant; 04-23-2023, 04:06 AM.

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            • champion4ever
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              #106
              Originally posted by shawnkemp804

              Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bowe, Nikolai Valuev, Lou Saverase were bigger than Foreman in terms of either height or weight. Valuev weighed over 300 pounds when he fought Holyfield. Valuev never weighed under 300 pounds. Yet Holyfield said Foreman punched harder so clearly being fat or heavier doesn't increase your punching power. If that was the case Jarrell Miller would be the hardest puncher in boxing right now.

              Zhang isn't a big puncher, which is why 6 fighters have went the distance with him and neither one of these guys world class fighters. Again Eric George a 5'9 190 pound fighter went the distance with Zhang even though guys his own size have stopped George. Glen Thomas, Juan Goode, Rodney Hernandez, Andrei Rudenko have all gone the distance with Zhang. He touched all of them. Lol they weren't hurt by his punches.

              My, my, my you don't understand the laws of boxing logic do you? Punching power isn't based off fat (we are talking about heavyweight boxers now) Andy Ruiz is fat, I never heard anybody say he is a hard puncher, Tyson Fury is fat, I never heard anybody say he is a huge puncher, Jermaine Franklin weighed as high as 277 pounds. I never heard anybody say he is a hard puncher.

              Maybe you should stick to playing Fortnite and watch Dragonball because your boxing knowledge is low at best.
              You are so mentally dense. I am going to stop trying to educate you. None of the heavies you mentioned were ever regarded as sluggers or even known for their KO power.

              They were all either boxers or boxer/punchers. Just take a good look at their knockout percentages and ratio. You'll see. Just remember that you have a moral obligation to be intelligent.

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              • champion4ever
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                #107
                Originally posted by bpurer23

                And even dumber than I thought. Yikes.
                You are stuck on ******! Learn to pick up a book and read it!

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                • shawnkemp804
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by champion4ever
                  You are so mentally dense. I am going to stop trying to educate you. None of the heavies you mentioned were ever regarded as sluggers or even known for their KO power.

                  They were all either boxers or boxer/punchers. Just take a good look at their knockout percentages and ratio. You'll see. Just remember that you have a moral obligation to be intelligent.
                  The mentally challenged little kid who doesn't know boxing calling somebody else dense. Lol George Foreman wasn't a slugger, but even if he was what does that have to do with punching power. You flat out stated that the heavier you are the more punching power you have. I named fighters who were bigger than Foreman that Holyfield fought yet Holyfield still said Foreman punched harder. Now you are going to try to spend your sad little narrative a different route. Also Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bowe weren't known for their punching power? Yeah you are mentally challenged. Don't message me again because I won't respond to anything else you type.

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                  • bpurer23
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by champion4ever

                    You are stuck on ******! Learn to pick up a book and read it!
                    You're clearly triggered. I find it amusing how easily I can control mental midgets like you.

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