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  • #71
    Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
    Lol its like Ortiz all over again

    He was gonna whoop everyone and the hype was unreal until he fought a top 3 heavyweight in Wilder and got folded twice.

    Fury is levels above Zhang, it wouldnt be competitive.
    Yes, Fury wins all fantasy fights. That is why he keeps on ducking everybody dangerous.

    I will start taking Fury seriously again when he fights somebody better than Chisora.
    Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 04-18-2023, 05:18 AM.
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    • #72
      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

      Yes, Fury wins all fantasy fights. That is why he keeps on ducking everybody dangerous.

      I will start taking Fury seriously again when he fights somebody better than Chisora.
      Who beat the two longest reigning heavyweight champs from the last 3 decades and went abroad to do it?

      Which team pulled out of the negotiations for the undisputed fight?

      listen to yourself

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      • #73
        Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
        You are wrong because not only is Zhang a naturally larger and stronger man than Wilder; He is also a southpaw.

        Remember the last time Fury challenged a southpaw was against Otto Wallin in which he nearly lost the bout and his eye. Wallin cut his right eye into two separate places with blood leaking everywhere.

        If you don’t believe then tell Tyson Fury to give him a rematch.
        Lol Zhang isn't a harder puncher than Wilder. Zhang just weighed more than Wilder but Zhang's natural weight isn't much more than Wilder.Just go and watch Zhang as a 25 plus year old amateur. He was much lighter. Before Zhang beat Joyce nobody thought anything of Zhang and casual boxing fans like you jumping on the hype train. Also did you ever see me type that Fury is a good fighter? Tyson Fury isn't going to dominate anybody who has even the slightest be of skilled and isn't there just to lose.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post

          r. Before Zhang beat Joyce nobody thought anything of Zhang and casual boxing fans like you jumping on the hype train. Also did you ever see me type that Fury is a good fighter? Tyson Fury isn't going to dominate anybody who has even the slightest be of skilled and isn't there just to lose.
          How can you underate zhang when he beat flip? Zhang is right, if he clips fury enough, fury will go down. And zhang knows he don't need to outpoint fury, he needs to not leave it to judges. Just make sure he lands hard shots on fury, whilst being defensively responsible.
          Zhang don't need to hit as hard as wilder. Zhang needs to be a better finisher than wilder when fury gets up!
          Last edited by hugh grant; 04-18-2023, 07:54 AM.

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          • #75
            Tyson is not Joyce, Tyson will beat him like a drum, Joe Slow Joyce is so slow, a sloth is like a rabbit next to him

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            • #76
              Originally posted by shawnkemp804 View Post

              Lol Zhang isn't a harder puncher than Wilder. Zhang just weighed more than Wilder but Zhang's natural weight isn't much more than Wilder.Just go and watch Zhang as a 25 plus year old amateur. He was much lighter. Before Zhang beat Joyce nobody thought anything of Zhang and casual boxing fans like you jumping on the hype train. Also did you ever see me type that Fury is a good fighter? Tyson Fury isn't going to dominate anybody who has even the slightest be of skilled and isn't there just to lose.
              My, my, my! You really don't understand the laws of physics do you? Wilder's power derives solely from the timing, accuracy and speed of the punch. He is similar to Mike Tyson in that regard when it comes to punching power.

              When Holyfield was asked who was the harder puncher Tyson or Foreman; He said George Foreman. Simply because of his natural size and the sheer weight and force behind his punches.

              Much like George Foreman; If a 280 lbs Zhilei Zhang touches you he will hurt you and it doesn't have to be an accurate or a clean shot either; Just simply due to the sheer size and the weight of his punches.
              Last edited by champion4ever; 04-18-2023, 01:34 PM.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

                How can you underate zhang when he beat flip? Zhang is right, if he clips fury enough, fury will go down. And zhang knows he don't need to outpoint fury, he needs to not leave it to judges. Just make sure he lands hard shots on fury, whilst being defensively responsible.
                Zhang don't need to hit as hard as wilder. Zhang needs to be a better finisher than wilder when fury gets up!
                Lol first off he didn't beat Filip. He lost, what you think about that fight is pointless. Zhang lost. Second who did Filip ever beat? He is just a prospect who has done nothing with his pro career so far. Second Fury doesn't have a good chin so numerous fighters could knock him down. Third what does any of this have to do with Zhang winning one fighter and now you casuals jump on his bandwagon?

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

                  My, my, my! You really don't understand the laws of physics do you? Wilder's power derives solely from the timing, accuracy and speed of the punch. He is similar to Mike Tyson in that regard when it comes to punching power.

                  When Holyfield was asked who was the harder puncher Tyson or Foreman; He said George Foreman. Simply because of his natural size and the sheer weight and size of his punches.

                  Much like George Foreman; If a 280 lbs Zhang Zhilei touches you he will hurt you and it doesn't have to be an accurate or a clean shot either; Just simply due to the sheer size and the weight of his punches.
                  Holyfield said Foreman hit harder because he didn’t take as many clean shots from Tyson so it would be impossible to answer . I did see Tyson buckle Holyfield good with just one shot early in one of those fights but struggled to land flush on him because as Holyfield said he would never stand and trade punches with Tyson like he did Foreman at times . Those are his words when they aren’t misinterpreted.

                  Tysons power came from short compact punching with everything else you said , Wilders power comes from swinging as hard as he could with everything else you said . Are they similar ? Well if you include technique Mikes overall power is much greater because he can punch with power with any shots at any angles . Wilder needs a good amount of distance and running starts at times to generate the power he does ,both are very effective if anything lands .
                  Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-18-2023, 10:34 AM.
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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by HeadShots View Post

                    If Joyce was such a scrub, why didn't you make money on the fight then? Cus YDKSAB

                    lol that's a simple answer I'm not a gambler and don't religiously go around betting in fights. I do study the fight game and have been since I was little. Joyce is a pressure fighter with little to no defense and relied on his pressure to break down opponents and has no plan B. What happens when you fight a guy who can deal with pressure and box all while you have no plan B ??? well you saw that in this fight.

                    What I do know about boxing is that Fury would not have lost to Zhang or Joyce. Fury is not one dimensional and can box and pressure as well as set up his traps and shots with precision. He also has a very good chin yes a very good chin you don't get hit by Wilder flush and get up and continue.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by cruz1383 View Post

                      lol that's a simple answer I'm not a gambler and don't religiously go around betting in fights. I do study the fight game and have been since I was little. Joyce is a pressure fighter with little to no defense and relied on his pressure to break down opponents and has no plan B. What happens when you fight a guy who can deal with pressure and box all while you have no plan B ??? well you saw that in this fight.

                      What I do know about boxing is that Fury would not have lost to Zhang or Joyce. Fury is not one dimensional and can box and pressure as well as set up his traps and shots with precision. He also has a very good chin yes a very good chin you don't get hit by Wilder flush and get up and continue.


                      lol ok

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