ZZ is Actually a Bad Matchup for Fury....

[PRINCEKOOL]

If Fury's goal was to survive in the first half of the fight, and then come on stronger in the second half 'I think Fury could carry out this game plan'.

The question is, would it be a good enough game plan to beat Zhang?

Fury really does not have a super high work rate, and although his endurance is better than Zhang's 'Fury is no monster in this department, his endurance is completely overrated'.

Fury in his last real fight at top-level was badly fatigued from round 2 on wards vs Wilder III.

Fury most likely would still find a way to win, but is there really any point in talking up such a fight? Fury would fight Zhang for a title, but it would be highly uncharacteristic for team Fury to take such a fight 'When Fury is already the WBC Heavyweight Champion, and there are other big fights with rewards also in the workings'.

There was beginning to be some public pressure to make the Joyce fight. But now since Joyce has been beaten 'Well looks like that fight has lost momentum' etc.

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But that's what it takes to KO Fury.

Cunningham and Wilder both dropped him but couldn't put him away.

I think Zhang can hurt him but that's as far as it goes. And he's definitely not winning a 12 round decision

His only bet is to put him away

exactly Cunningham is a pillow-fisted cruiser. Zhang hits harder than Wilder. Wilder's just been feasting on bums. Fury is not that durable



Who has WIlder stopped that has the durability of Juggernaut? Wilder prob punches as hard as Dubois. there are levels to this. Dubois shots bounced off Juggernaut.


Tyson has never fought a guy his own size. especially with the heavy shots that Zhang will throw.

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If Fury's goal was to survive in the first half of the fight, and then come on stronger in the second half 'I think Fury could carry out this game plan'.

The question is, would it be a good enough game plan to beat Zhang?

Fury really does not have a super high work rate, and although his endurance is better than Zhang's 'Fury is no monster in this department, his endurance is completely overrated'.

Fury in his last real fight at top-level was badly fatigued from round 2 on wards vs Wilder III.

Fury most likely would still find a way to win, but is there really any point in talking up such a fight? Fury would fight Zhang for a title, but it would be highly uncharacteristic for team Fury to take such a fight 'When Fury is already the WBC Heavyweight Champion, and there are other big fights with rewards also in the workings'.

There was beginning to be some public pressure to make the Joyce fight. But now since Joyce has been beaten 'Well looks like that fight has lost momentum' etc.

Fury also gets hit. He will be fighting a man his size with fast hands and heavy heavy power. once you get hit you stay hit by Zhang. Wilder's punches are snappy and quick but they are not heavy. they don't do accumulative damage like Zhang's power does.

[NoConcoms]

Zhang hits harder than Wilder. .

Just when I thought I'd seen everything on this forum. Thank u for the entertainment.

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Just when I thought I'd seen everything on this forum. Thank u for the entertainment.

PBC conned you

you think spilka, brazil are durable fighters compared to Juggernaut and Hrgo? LMFAO. the first superheavy he fought, he got his ass beat 3 times in a row. couldn't KO no more.


has Wilder even fought a gold olympic medalist?

[hugh grant]

Zhang is no1 in the world, so yeah I'd say bad matchup for fury

[NoConcoms]

Wilder's punches are snappy and quick but they are not heavy.

Wilder's punches are not heavy? And quick and snappy? Really? Well why do all the "experts" on here say he "windmills" his punches?

Wilder is one of the heaviest punchers in the history of the heavyweight division. He has devastating one shot power. So much in fact, that it has carried him to a very successful career, despite the fact that he is a very crude, rudimentary boxer.

What I think you mean when you say "heavy" is more like "thudding" type power. Take Vitali Klitschko; accumulative power, thrown with bad techniques. He threw "arm punches", but his power was such that he could keep his opponents at bay.

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Wilder's punches are not heavy? And quick and snappy? Really? Well why do all the "experts" on here say he "windmills" his punches?

Wilder is one of the heaviest punchers in the history of the heavyweight division. He has devastating one shot power. So much in fact, that it has carried him to a very successful career, despite the fact that he is a very crude, rudimentary boxer.

What I think you mean when you say "heavy" is more like "thudding" type power. Take Vitali Klitschko; accumulative power, thrown with bad techniques. He threw "arm punches", but his power was such that he could keep his opponents at bay.

Name 1 guy Wilder stopped that has the durability of Joe Joyce



I'll wait

[Clegg]

Name 1 guy Wilder stopped that has the durability of Joe Joyce



I'll wait

Zhang clearly hits hard. But he landed a lot of flush shots and didn't drop Joyce. He hurt him, but the stoppage was on a closed eye. Not quite the same as literally knocking somebody out. Would Jerry Forrest take Wilder the distance? Wilder fought a lot of weak opponents but he always stopped them even when he was very green, whereas Zhang was taken the distance by a few low level guys.

[NoConcoms]

Name 1 guy Wilder stopped that has the durability of Joe Joyce
I'll wait

Luis Ortiz has been shown to be very durable, and Wilder stopped him twice. I will say Joyce is more durable, but not by much. If Joe Joyce's durability is 9/10, then Luis Ortiz would have to be an 8/10.

Look, the bottom line is this; You're failing to be objective here. You are totally dismissing Deontay Wilder, and that isn't fair. Deontay Wilder is still the #3 man at HW. Only Usyk and Fury are ahead of him. Anyone who disputes this is just ignorant or has an agenda.

Wilder would flatten both Joyce or Zhang, and we all know this. In fact, Wilder vs. Zhang is a fight I would very much like to see.