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  • juggernaut666
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    #21
    Originally posted by Toffee

    Zhang won't want any part of Hrgovic either. He's a big guy who has proved that he can go with him for chin and power. Doesn't really need to be settled. They're both where they need to be - why risk anything?
    Hrgovic wants the rematch..your wrong . In fact look for Zhang to avoid that fight if he’s the mandatory. Hrgovic wanted the fight next my guess is he’s after Zhang and will keep the same energy.

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    • Toffee
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      #22
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

      I’m sure Zhang wants to right that wrong. He should be unbeaten right now and the mandatory to BOTH the IBF and WBO belts.
      That's not possible. He's now WBO interim champion. He won't even be rated by the IBF. And he wouldn't have been fighting Joyce.

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      • Toffee
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        #23
        Originally posted by juggernaut666
        Hrgovic wants the rematch..your wrong . In fact look for Zhang to avoid that fight if he’s the mandatory. Hrgovic wanted the fight next my guess is he’s after Zhang and will keep the same energy.
        Hrgovic is IBF mandatory. Of course he's not going to look to fight Zhang, the WBO Interim champion.

        Why on earth would this happen? You don't think their respective orgs might have a say?

        ​​​​​​And they both have a huge earner on the way... a rematch would generate more than the purse bids for the first fight ($650k total) but not by that much.
        Last edited by Toffee; 04-15-2023, 07:29 PM.

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        • Marchegiano
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          #24
          Originally posted by Dr. Z
          1. Usky
          2. Hrgovic
          3. Zhang


          Fury is busy playing with himself and won't fight in shape ranked contenders. Joshua look awful in his last fight. I wait for Wilder to beat anyone. Convince me otherwise.
          Only beaten Joshua
          Has beaten no one
          Has beaten no one


          I don't understand why people project guys who have done less over Wilder while saying stuff like "because Wilder's resume doe". Wilder might not have a great win but he did perform well against Fury and 2/3s of these guys haven't done anything to show they could do as well or better against the Fury Wilder put down and caused the most controversial count since Douglas-Tyson.

          Usyk's Joshua dismantling is enough for him to secure top positioning, 1 is debatable. I say 1 too but it is debatable and I don't think people who say Fury are wrong. Usyk and Fury are both viable top guys.

          The other two have only fought unproven guys or guys who are proven lesser HWs. Wilder's fought heaps of that caliber and what he does to them is far more impressive.
          1. Usyk
          2. Fury
          3. Wilder
          4. Joshua
          5. Ruiz

          I only have Wilder over Joshua because the caliber of their newest wins. Their post-losses wins. Wilder came back looking exactly like he did before he got triple busted by Fury. Joshua seems forever changed. Wilder's opponent was more proven. Joshua's opponent was a guy who had just lost to one of his own leftovers.


          Ruiz is still more proven than Hrgovic or Zhang. The only way those guys look good is if you act like the old guard is gone.


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          • joseph5620
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            #25
            Originally posted by Dr. Z
            1. Usky
            2. Hrgovic
            3. Zhang


            Fury is busy playing with himself and won't fight in shape ranked contenders. Joshua look awful in his last fight. I wait for Wilder to beat anyone. Convince me otherwise.
            Zhang beat Hrgovic clearly. One of the worst decisions I've seen.

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            • joseph5620
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              #26
              Originally posted by HawkHogan

              Only beaten Joshua
              Has beaten no one
              Has beaten no one


              I don't understand why people project guys who have done less over Wilder while saying stuff like "because Wilder's resume doe". Wilder might not have a great win but he did perform well against Fury and 2/3s of these guys haven't done anything to show they could do as well or better against the Fury Wilder put down and caused the most controversial count since Douglas-Tyson.

              Usyk's Joshua dismantling is enough for him to secure top positioning, 1 is debatable. I say 1 too but it is debatable and I don't think people who say Fury are wrong. Usyk and Fury are both viable top guys.

              The other two have only fought unproven guys or guys who are proven lesser HWs. Wilder's fought heaps of that caliber and what he does to them is far more impressive.
              1. Usyk
              2. Fury
              3. Wilder
              4. Joshua
              5. Ruiz

              I only have Wilder over Joshua because the caliber of their newest wins. Their post-losses wins. Wilder came back looking exactly like he did before he got triple busted by Fury. Joshua seems forever changed. Wilder's opponent was more proven. Joshua's opponent was a guy who had just lost to one of his own leftovers.


              Ruiz is still more proven than Hrgovic or Zhang. The only way those guys look good is if you act like the old guard is gone.

              This is a far more realistic and credible top 5 than the one in the OP. Although I would switch Usyk with Fury.

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