Haney is utterly shameless weightbully

[Cypocryphy]

Right so what is your point?

Because by your own logic here Rigondeaux was obviously not too small for Doniare, was he?

Just like Lomachenko isn't too small for Haney.

Maybe I quoted you when I should have quoted joseph5620 . My bad. Anyway, the issue is that everyone said Rigondeaux was too small for Loma, and Rigo did have a size disadvantage, which Loma acknowledged. But for me, it's what those guys weighed when in the ring. You do remember that there was a rehydration limit in that fight, right?

Here's the article, but I'll quote the relevant section:

There's also a rehydration limit, meaning that neither fighter will be able to weigh over 138lbs for the second-day weigh-in.

So this comparison to Rigondeaux is completely disingenuous and bogus. There is no rehydration limit for Haney, so people need to stop defending this crap.

[LeOoze]

Maybe I quoted you when I should have quoted joseph5620 . My bad. Anyway, the issue is that everyone said Rigondeaux was too small for Loma, and Rigo did have a size disadvantage, which Loma acknowledged. But for me, it's what those guys weighed when in the ring. You do remember that there was a rehydration limit in that fight, right?

Here's the article, but I'll quote the relevant section:


So this comparison to Rigondeaux is completely disingenuous and bogus. There is no rehydration limit for Haney, so people need to stop defending this crap.

No Loma fan but this is facts. Loma wasn't also a big 130 lber either.

[STREET CLEANER]

Fighters that cut lots of weight are usually weakened. I've never seen one say they're "stronger"

Chavez Jr is the best example. He used to squeeze himself to 160 and as limited he was he had power and a huge size. Once he couldn't shrink anymore that huge advantage left.
Munguia is the other weight bully that unless it is a third tier fighter he can't use his size anymore to bully smaller fighters.
As fighters get older they loose that ability to cut so much weight and using their size to their advantage.
ODLH was devastating at the lower weights but as he went up and could drop so much he had to work more for his wins.

[joseph5620]

Maybe I quoted you when I should have quoted joseph5620 . My bad. Anyway, the issue is that everyone said Rigondeaux was too small for Loma, and Rigo did have a size disadvantage, which Loma acknowledged. But for me, it's what those guys weighed when in the ring. You do remember that there was a rehydration limit in that fight, right?

Here's the article, but I'll quote the relevant section:


So this comparison to Rigondeaux is completely disingenuous and bogus. There is no rehydration limit for Haney, so people need to stop defending this crap.

Don't use my name in this just because Dan is making a fool out of you. You know who you're quoting. This is all you

[IronDanHamza]

Maybe I quoted you when I should have quoted joseph5620 . My bad. Anyway, the issue is that everyone said Rigondeaux was too small for Loma, and Rigo did have a size disadvantage, which Loma acknowledged. But for me, it's what those guys weighed when in the ring. You do remember that there was a rehydration limit in that fight, right?

Here's the article, but I'll quote the relevant section:


So this comparison to Rigondeaux is completely disingenuous and bogus. There is no rehydration limit for Haney, so people need to stop defending this crap.

Well you must have because I said nothing about Rigondeaux.

But the difference between Donaire-Rigondeaux and Lomachenko-Rigondeaux is Rigondeaux had been at 122 for years and they were the #1 and #2 at that weight when they fought much like Haney and Lomachenko are now at 135.

Whereas when Lomachenko fought Rigondeaux, Rigondeaux moved up two weight classes to a weight he'd never fought at before.

So those two sitatuons aren't very alike and it also kind of disproves your stance if anything.

[joseph5620]

No Loma fan but this is facts. Loma wasn't also a big 130 lber either.

If he wasn't a big 130 pounder why would he be worried about rehydrating over 138 pounds?

[LeOoze]

If he wasn't a big 130 pounder why would he be worried about rehydrating over 138 pounds?

He followed the rehydration rules fine. Haney would never agree to a clause.

[Cypocryphy]

Well you must have because I said nothing about Rigondeaux.

But the difference between Donaire-Rigondeaux and Lomachenko-Rigondeaux is Rigondeaux had been at 122 for years and they were the #1 and #2 at that weight when they fought much like Haney and Lomachenko are now at 135.

Whereas when Lomachenko fought Rigondeaux, Rigondeaux moved up two weight classes to a weight he'd never fought at before.

So those two sitatuons aren't very alike and it also kind of disproves your stance if anything.

Loma had moved up a weight class already, so they were actually just one weight class apart. So it doesn't really disprove anything. I will give Rigo credit for fighting in a weight class he hasn't fought before, but Loma was not a natural super featherweight. He's more of a featherweight who moved up to fight champions that he couldn't fight at the lower weight. I also remember that Rigo turned down the fight at featherweight. But then complains that he has to fight him at super featherweight.

No matter what, however, there was a rehydration limit. So that worked in Rigo's favor.

[joseph5620]

He followed the rehydration rules fine. Haney would never agree to a clause.

That wasn't my question or my statement. If Lomachenko was small at 130 why would he be worried about rehydration over 138 pounds? That was the question.


Haney makes the weight at 135. So why would he agree to that? Lomachenko isn't complaining so his fan base shouldn't either.

[IronDanHamza]

Loma had moved up a weight class already, so they were actually just one weight class apart. So it doesn't really disprove anything. I will give Rigo credit for fighting in a weight class he hasn't fought before, but Loma was not a natural super featherweight. He's more of a featherweight who moved up to fight champions that he couldn't fight at the lower weight. I also remember that Rigo turned down the fight at featherweight. But then complains that he has to fight him at super featherweight.

No matter what, however, there was a rehydration limit. So that worked in Rigo's favor.

No they were 2 weight classes apart. Lomachenko was competing at 130 lbs for over a year and was the champion there and Rigondeaux was competing at 122. That's 2 weight classes.

So it actually does disprove your stance because if we've established Rigondeaux wasn't too small for Donaire, it's the same line of thinking for Lomachenko not being too small for Haney. Which is true in both cases.