PR vs Mex in Championship Fights: Who won?

[Sir_Jose]

PR
Felix Trinidad- Soon to be P4P #1
John Ruiz- First Spanish Heaveyweight Champion
Daniel Santos- Beat Margarito 2 times
Miguel Cotto- Future star
Ivan Calderon- Best in divison
Kermit Cintron- Soon to beat Margarito

Mexico
Erik Morales-Lost to Barrera 3 times, soon to Pacman
MAB- Soon fighting an unknown on PPV, good tho
Jose Luis Castillo-Overated, Casamayor dominated him
DLH-Lost to Sturm
Anotonio Margarito-Lost to Santos
Juan Diaz-Baby bore, 100 connect punches that do nothing!
JM Marquez-Draw with Pacman?
Oscar Larios- Who?
Rafeal Marquez-Good prospect
Ivan Hernandez-Who?
Jorge Arce-Who?

I see you changed for the top ten list to the current fighters, thats kool Jose, what a super great list Mexicans have, Wow!!

God your turning into a joke.

Switched from all time to now? you cant match EITHER list and your weak attempts to try only make you look foolish. Like I said a million times who do you have better than Chavez, Lopez or Sanchez? if you want to talk all time.

The level of contraditions in that post were simply amazing. Im mean that, really.

You claim that Morales lost 3 times to MAB, Margarito lost to Santos, DLH lost to Sturm, JM Marquez drew with Pac. obviously you found the desicions of those fights to be wrong, but yet make no mention of Tito getting a gift over DLH, Santos getting a gift over Margito or Ruiz getting a gift over Holyfield in the 3rd fight. Why is that?

How you even managed to sit there thinking your making a valid point and type that with a straight face is beyond me.

Did you just call Rafeal Marquez a "Good Prospect"? Marquez passed the Prospect label years ago considering he is a dominate champion and a p4p top 10 fighter.

Cassamayor "dominated" Castillo? are you kidding me?

I love how for Ivan Claderon you wrote "best in the division, but failed to reconize Castillo, Larios, Marquez, Arce, Hernandez, MAB as the best in there division, funny how that works huh.


since we want to pick apart peoples list.
Felix Trinidad- Wasn't even competative against the two best fighters he fought. When faced with a loss he chose to leave the sport entirely
John Ruiz- Do I even have to knock John Ruiz? I mean come on the guy lost to a blown up middleweight. His best punch is his sweaty man hug.
Daniel Santos- Outweighted Margairto by 20lbs and still got his ass whooped in his hometown
Miguel Cotto- Almost got KO'ed by a crosss dresser
Ivan Calderon- Cant kncok him he's good
Kermit Cintron- Nice looking prospect who works hard.

[BBFM]

Hey Im on welfare..... wtf ***** you got a problem with that...

[IwatchBoxing]

Wilfred "El Radar" Benitez www.wilfredbenitez.com
He lost his second defense match for the 147-pound division title by knockout in the 15th round to Olympic gold medal winner "Sugar" Ray Leonard on November 30, 1979 in Las Vegas, NV. On May 23, 1981 he knocked out Maurice Hope in 12 rounds in Las Vegas, NV to win the WBC title. He became the first Spanish-speaking boxer to win (3) world titles in three different weight classes. He defended the same title against Roberto "Mano de Piedra" in a fight known as " War of Pride" on January 30, 1982. Benitez put on another elegant display of skill and defeated Panamanian Roberto Duran in a title match. Later Duran refused to entertain the notion of rematch with Benitez.On December 3, 1982 he lost by decision in 15 rounds in a bout for the super welterweight title against Thomas "Hit-Man" Hearns, a hotly disputed match that showed that when it came to dodging punches, Benitez stood alone.
3 All-Time greats while moving up, beat one last 15 RD's with two.
Now list Chavez's thing.

[Sir_Jose]

What a joke. Just stop already. Are trying to argue that Wilfred Benitez is greater than Julio Cesar Chavez?

Benitez LOST to Ray Leonard and LOST to Tommy Hearns. His biggest acomplishment was beating an old Duran.

Julio Cesar Chavez
World Titles:
WBC Super Featherweight(1884-1987)
WBA Lightweight(1987-1989)
WBC Lightweight(1988-1989)
WBC Super Lightweight(1989-1994)
WBC Super Lightweight(1994-1996)
IBF Junior Weltwerweight(1990-1991)

87-0 before someone beat him(Yes im counting Whitaker as a loss)

[IwatchBoxing]

What a joke. Just stop already. Are trying to argue that Wilfred Benitez is greater than Julio Cesar Chavez?

Benitez LOST to Ray Leonard and LOST to Tommy Hearns. His biggest acomplishment was beating an old Duran.

Julio Cesar Chavez
World Titles:
WBC Super Featherweight(1884-1987)
WBA Lightweight(1987-1989)
WBC Lightweight(1988-1989)
WBC Super Lightweight(1989-1994)
WBC Super Lightweight(1994-1996)
IBF Junior Weltwerweight(1990-1991)

87-0 before someone beat him(Yes im counting Whitaker as a loss)

Man Jose, your a wreck, Benitz became the youngest Champion, went 15 rounds with Leonard, 15 rounds with Hearns(hotly disputed descion), first hispanic to win in three weight classes, beat a Duran, who lost to Leonard just one year pirror, and you cant even name the great fighters Chavez faced, cause a ref stoped the fight so he can win just 5 secounds from it being over, thats sad if hes your best, imange people didnt even know who he was till he started losing.

[BBFM]

wow haha..

[Sir_Jose]

Man Jose, your a wreck, Benitz became the youngest Champion, went 15 rounds with Leonard, 15 rounds with Hearns(hotly disputed descion), first hispanic to win in three weight classes, beat a Duran, who lost to Leonard just one year pirror, and you cant even name the great fighters Chavez faced, cause a ref stoped the fight so he can win just 5 secounds from it being over, thats sad if hes your best, imange people didnt even know who he was till he started losing.

Wow. Just keeps getting better dont it people.

Yes he went 15 rounds with Leonard and LOST, Yes he went 15 rounds with Hears and LOST.

If you knew anything about boxiing you would know Duran was at his beast years earlier at Lightweight and wouldn't be trying to brag about a win over Duran that happend at 154lbs

Did you just say people didn't know who Chavez was untill he started losing?

I cant name someone who Chavez beat that was worth anything? Oh...hows about Edwin Rosario? who you just put on your all time great Puerto Rican list dumbass.

[IwatchBoxing]

Wow. Just keeps getting better dont it people.

Yes he went 15 rounds with Leonard and LOST, Yes he went 15 rounds with Hears and LOST.

If you knew anything about boxiing you would know Duran was at his beast years earlier at Lightweight and wouldn't be trying to brag about a win over Duran that happend at 154lbs

Did you just say people didn't know who Chavez was untill he started losing?

I cant name someone who Chavez beat that was worth anything? Oh...hows about Edwin Rosario? who you just put on your all time great Puerto Rican list dumbass.

Hahaha, another PR beat Duran at lightweight, Chavez doesnt hold up, and Duran only lost to leonard moving up, how is that sucking?

[Sir_Jose]

Hahaha, another PR beat Duran at lightweight, Chavez doesnt hold up, and Duran only lost to leonard moving up, how is that sucking?

*sighs*

How does he "not hold up".

Drinking and staying out all night beat Duran, Please tell me what Duran did to DeJesus in there next two fights? Do you think DeJesus was on the same level as Duran?

[IwatchBoxing]

*sighs*

How does he "not hold up".

Drinking and staying out all night beat Duran, Please tell me what Duran did to DeJesus in there next two fights? Do you think DeJesus was on the same level as Duran?

The bolded is an excuse, Chavez is a great, but doesnt have an impressive record like benitez has, he has beaten an all time great, held his own with one, and it can be disputed that he won against Hearns, Chavez did alot but his big names are Taylor(who beat him the first time), and Edwin Rosario which isnt nothing put next to the fabulous four, Dejesus isnt on Durans level, he just beat him once, but that shows he was good enough for three fights with the legenardy Duran, fighters are only as good as the fighters they fight against, if you fight noone, you cant get cerdit for anything, plus Benitez did things for the first time ever which adds to his record.