So lasting 15 RD's with two top five All- Time greats is nothing?And beating another top five All- Time Great, whos an all- time great for moving up in weight in the first place, is nothing?Plus we talking about heavier weights, where the biggest/best fighters are, oh and it can be argued he beat Hearns. if anything, Benitez is a top five all-time great too.
I don't know what kind of top five all-time greats would have SRL and Hearns on it, but oh well. Anyway dude, you're talking about LOSSES. Yes, he went the distance. But he ****ing LOST. Take a look at what Gomez did. A real hard look. Then come to me and say Benitez was better.
And Benitez is a top five all-time great? And you say this based on two LOSSES? Are you ******ed?
Shut up, Stop spewing bull****, Sit back and learn something from people who know more about this sport than you. Just because you read something on WilfredBenitez.com doesn't make it true.No lasting 15 rounds doesn't mean **** if you LOSE. I dont get how you see he is so great because he LOST these fights?Oh because he weighted more that means he's better? So are you gonna try and tell me John Ruiz is better than guys like Rafeal Marquez, Manny Pac or Kostya Tszyu. After all he is fighter at a heavier weight and thats where the better fighters are.
Duran wasnt old, it was just his 3rd lost behind Leonard, stop writing so much, and take some chill pills before your airhead explodes, plus I understand you see nothing heroic in losing since your all time great is a fighter who fought 100 and something bums to build a record, what would you know about fighting the best, to be the best, and Ruiz can kick all their asses weather or not being better, at heavier weights, the more power, damage you get, thats why Mexicans are so care free when they fight.
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Duran wasnt old, it was just his 3rd lost behind Leonard, stop writing so much, and take some chill pills before your airhead explodes, plus I understand you see nothing heroic in losing since your all time great is a fighter who fought 100 and something bums to build a record.
No no. You know who else is an all-time great? A guy by the name of Murray Sutherland. OK so he never won a title and actually his record was pretty ****ty, but you know what? He also went the distance with Tommy Hearns. I mean, maybe he doesn't crack the top 5, but he MUST be a top 10 all-time, hands down.
Duran wasnt old, it was just his 3rd lost behind Leonard.
My God, you really are slow. What part of "Duran was fighting 20 pounds above his prime weight" are you not understanding? Because it's pretty easy, really. I mean you don't even need to know too much about boxing, or about anything, for that matter. It's a simple concept: Duran was a natural LIGHTWEIGHT. Benitez beat him at JUNIOR MIDDLE. Maybe if I capitalize it'll help you understand a little better?
My God, you really are slow. What part of "Duran was fighting 20 pounds above his prime weight" are you not understanding? Because it's pretty easy, really. I mean you don't even need to know too much about boxing, or about anything, for that matter. It's a simple concept: Duran was a natural LIGHTWEIGHT. Benitez beat him at JUNIOR MIDDLE. Maybe if I capitalize it'll help you understand a little better?
So, what does that have to do with him being old? Leonard gets cerdit, so does Benitez, and Benitez was moving up in weight too when Hearns beat him(or lost!), and isn't Duran so great cause he moved up in weight?
So, what does that have to do with him being old? Leonard gets cerdit, so does Benitez, and Benitez was moving up in weight too when Hearns beat him(or lost!), and isn't Duran so great cause he moved up in weight?
That is exactly why Duran is widely considered a top 5 p4p ever and above SRL, Hearns and Hagler, even though he lost to all three of them. You see people understand that Duran's prime was 5 - 10 years before and 12 - 20 pounds lighter. You know who does get the most credit out of beating Duran? Esteban de Jesus, who beat a prime Duran at lightweight.
That is exactly why Duran is widely considered a top 5 p4p ever and above SRL, Hearns and Hagler, even though he lost to all three of them. You see people understand that Duran's prime was 5 - 10 years before and 12 - 20 pounds lighter. You know who does get the most credit out of beating Duran? Esteban de Jesus, who beat a prime Duran at lightweight.
Is that a bit clearer?
You know what, Leonard and Benitez get cerdit even if you dont approve, you just digging yourself deeper buddy, you cant say he was only prime'd at Lightweight, when other than Jesus he lost to Leonard, and than Benitez, sorry you just cant, he was still winning fights so he was still Duran, you cant claim hes old or not primed after losing, just wait till Trinidad moves up to face Lacy, thats 4 weights, and than he would be considered better than Duran, just imange when he beats Hopkins too.
You know what, Leonard and Benitez get cerdit even if you dont approve, you just digging yourself deeper buddy, you cant say he was only prime'd at Lightweight, when other than Jesus he lost to Leonard, and than Benitez, sorry you just cant, he was still winning fights so he was still Duran, you cant claim hes old or not primed after losing, just wait till Trinidad moves up to face Lacy, thats 4 weights, and than he would be considered better than Duran, just imange when he beats Hopkins too.
Clear enough for you
Yeah, it's clear enough for me that you're a ****** **** who doesn't know the first thing about boxing. Fortunately everyone here seems to think the exact same about you.
Trinidad better than Duran when he faces Lacy? That's beyond funny. But hey, maybe you could find 3 or 4 people in the whole world (all in Puerto Rico, of course) who agree with you on this one.
Yeah, it's clear enough for me that you're a ****** **** who doesn't know the first thing about boxing. Fortunately everyone here seems to think the exact same about you.
Trinidad better than Duran when he faces Lacy? That's beyond funny. But hey, maybe you could find 3 or 4 people in the whole world (all in Puerto Rico, of course) who agree with you on this one.
You can be a hater forever, but that wont stop anyone, here get use to sucking on this , you and your so called "world" behind you.
The real list: Wilfredo "El Radar" Benitez (53-8-1, 31 KO's) Felix "Tito" Trinidad (42-1, 35 KO's) Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez (44-3-1, 42 KO's) Carlos Ortiz (60-7-1, 29 KO's) Edwin "El Chappo" Rosario (47 -6, 41 KO's) Sammy "El Torbellino" Serrano (52-4-1, 17 KO's) Jose "Chegui" Torres (41-3-1, 29 KO's) Estaban De Jesus (57-5, 32 KO's) John John Molina (52-7, 33 KO's) Wilfredo "Pride of Puerto Rico" Vazquez (56-9-2, 41 KO's)
the best thing to come out of PR is Tito and J.LO.
maybe cause im 19 but ive never heard of that list of PR's. except Tito whos great, Benitez who ppl say hes great (ive wasnt born when he was around) and Molina who wasnt special at all. And also i didnt know corrales was PR that dude is gay as hell, has anyone heard him talk??
by the way Iwatchboxing what part of Miami your from?
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