Fury truly broke my heart

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  • Kzbox
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    #61
    Originally posted by kafkod

    Do you think anybody would pay to see Fury vs Dubois on PPV now? Fury has done himself tremendous damage in the last few weeks. If you tried thinking for yourself instead of just parroting his bullshit you would understand that.
    He would sell more than Usyk that's for damn sure and that's the whole point i'm making. Listen u guys going on as if im a nuthugger when i said Furys a businessman, bser and is partly to blame but i'm just saying Usyk was the one who wanted the rematch or bust he's rich enough and claims all he ever wants is undisputed if he felt like he was going to win the fight why not just take the 70 - 30 no rematch win the fight then retire like he claims he was going to do. He refused so the fight didn't happen Fury is greedy and Usyk got greedy just how it is

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    • W1LL
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      #62
      I reckon Tyson would laugh at you and call you a sausage, if this thread was brought to his attention.

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      • BodyBagz
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        #63
        Originally posted by denium
        It'll still happen imo, only later in the year in Saudi.

        Fury didn't do himself any favours in the negotiations but Usyk and his team of chicken farmers didn't do themselves any favours either.
        Now there's some legit irony right there.
        Fury is he biggest chicken there is
        Letting a ''MW'' run him off

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        • BodyBagz
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          #64
          Originally posted by W1LL
          I reckon Tyson would laugh at you and call you a sausage, if this thread was brought to his attention.
          Is Fury in a position to laugh at anyone now ?

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          • Toffee
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            #65
            Originally posted by Kzbox

            You say gullible i say facts we will soon see anyway lets see how many PPVs Usyk vs Dubois does i will be more than happy to admit I’m wrong if he does decent numbers. Yeah Usyk beat AJ and respect to him for that but nobody really cared too much about him at cruiserweight.
            You're missing the point. No-one denies Fury sells better than Usyk.

            But Fury sells a lot better v Usyk than he would against another Chisora type fight because Usyk brings credibility, 3 belts and a claim to being the best in the division.

            Usyk v Dubois won't prove anything. It's a mandatory that no-one really cares about.

            Fury v Usyk was an Undisputed Heavyweight Championship fight. First in twenty-odd years. Not a mandatory. Nor was it Fury giving someone a shot. It's a two party thing.

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            • FlatLine
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              #66
              Fury's record isn't great at the moment and he's hoodwinked a lot of his own fans.

              He only defended his WBC belt 3 times but look deeper and you realize 2 of those defenses were against guys he already beat, Wilder and Chisora.

              So in reality, Fury only defended his world title ONE time against someone he never beat before, Dillian Whyte! Somehow people seem to overlook this. There's still time for Fury to create a meaningful legacy but with his ducking of Usyk it seems unlikely he cares about legacy.

              Compare it to AJ. He defended his world titles SIX times against people he never fought before. Yet Fury became champion 2 years before Joshua and only defended one time against someone new. It's kinda crazy when you stop to think about it. Fury is unfortunately a compulsive liar and has almost a cult-leader like mind control over his fans who seem unable to see through his bs, even when presented with the statistics.

              He's an excellent boxer though and from the eye-test it's not unreasonable to think he might be one of the best of the era. But boxing matches aren't won by an eye-test.

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              • JakeTheBoxer
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                #67
                Originally posted by FlatLine
                Fury's record isn't great at the moment and he's hoodwinked a lot of his own fans.

                He only defended his WBC belt 3 times but look deeper and you realize 2 of those defenses were against guys he already beat, Wilder and Chisora.

                So in reality, Fury only defended his world title ONE time against someone he never beat before, Dillian Whyte! Somehow people seem to overlook this. There's still time for Fury to create a meaningful legacy but with his ducking of Usyk it seems unlikely he cares about legacy.

                Compare it to AJ. He defended his world titles SIX times against people he never fought before. Yet Fury became champion 2 years before Joshua and only defended one time against someone new. It's kinda crazy when you stop to think about it. Fury is unfortunately a compulsive liar and has almost a cult-leader like mind control over his fans who seem unable to see through his bs, even when presented with the statistics.

                He's an excellent boxer though and from the eye-test it's not unreasonable to think he might be one of the best of the era. But boxing matches aren't won by an eye-test.
                Yep.

                Joshua is more legit than Fury.

                Fury fought Klitschko, Whyte, Wilder. We should not count Wallin as a great win, Wallin was Franklin level guy.

                Joshua fought Klitschko, Povetkin, Parker, Pulev, Ruiz, Usyk. There are also secondary wins like prime Breazeale, Takam, prime Whyte, Martin. Sure, he lost some, but that is what happens when you fight good guys.

                Joshua and Usyk seem to be guys willing to fight anybody. More more legit than Wilder`s and Fury`s cherry picking game.
                Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 04-03-2023, 02:06 AM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  As a former Fury fan, I am very, very disappointed in him.
                  Me too.

                  And he is highly overrated as "undefeated" fighter.

                  When he beat Wilder and Whyte, I expected him to fight Joshua, Usyk, Sanchez and beat all these guys.

                  I didn`t expect him to duck a cruiserweight , sure not.
                  Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 04-03-2023, 02:18 AM.

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                  • Kzbox
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

                    Yep.

                    Joshua is more legit than Fury.

                    Fury fought Klitschko, Whyte, Wilder. We should not count Wallin as a great win, Wallin was Franklin level guy.

                    Joshua fought Klitschko, Povetkin, Parker, Pulev, Ruiz, Usyk. There are also secondary wins like prime Breazeale, Takam, prime Whyte, Martin. Sure, he lost some, but that is what happens when you fight good guys.

                    Joshua and Usyk seem to be guys willing to fight anybody. More more legit than Wilder`s and Fury`s cherry picking game.
                    Joshuas wins are very over rated beat a 41 year old 2 years out the ring Klitschko who nearly beat him, Beat a 40 year old overrated Povetkin, Pulev is awful and just got beat by Chisora if this was the other way around context would matter that second tier i wont even go into lmao not good wins by any stretch other than prime Whyte.

                    Only actual good wins are Parker, Ruiz 2 and Whyte.
                    Last edited by Kzbox; 04-03-2023, 03:21 AM.

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                    • QueensburyRules
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Kzbox

                      Joshuas wins are very over rated beat a 41 year old 2 years out the ring Klitschko.
                      - - What part of AJ fighting the all time great Wlad who who melted Blubber into a shameless 3 year drugged out retirement do you not understand?

                      'toopid, or just a Blubber Bot?

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