The hate for Haney is out of hand!

[elfag]

haney just isnt that great and these guys haney, shakur, loma, tank and ryan should have all had a tournament like 3 years ago already.

[GhostofDempsey]

are people meant to lie and say lomachenko isnt past prime? hes clearly not what he was... and a lot smaller too.

Haney looks like a welterweight next to Loma. He would never agree to rehydration clauses either.

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[Cypocryphy]

Anyone have any idea wtf this idiot is trying to say?

He's saying that they are two clowns.

[Mammoth]

He’s nowhere near as good.

We're talking about styles, man. Salido wouldn't beat those guys either.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

We're talking about styles, man. Salido wouldn't beat those guys either.

He’d have beaten them in their second fight.

Loma has beaten much better guys with the same dimensions as Ortiz. Guys who can move, are better technically and are far more accomplished.

Loma struggled with Ortiz cause he’s older, slower, less athletic etc and for those same reasons I believe he’ll lose widely to Haney.

It’s still a good win, but is it a win that cements Haney as P4P #1, best fighter in the world and all this other delusional bullsh**? Hell no.

[Mammoth]

Loma has beaten much better guys with the same dimensions as Ortiz. Guys who can move, are better technically and are far more accomplished.

Similar dimensions. Zero pressure fighters. It's like you are completely unable to address what I'm saying about style.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Similar dimensions. Zero pressure fighters. It's like you are completely unable to address what I'm saying about style.

Are you saying Ortiz is a pressure fighter?

What could Ortiz do that Linares couldn’t?

[Cypocryphy]

Are you saying Ortiz is a pressure fighter?

What could Ortiz do that Linares couldn’t?

Ortiz could spar Loma for a whole training camp, and Linares couldn't. Ortiz got to use trial and error for weeks with Loma (if not longer) and then come up with a game plan to beat him. That's one big difference.

[Mammoth]

Are you saying Ortiz is a pressure fighter?

What could Ortiz do that Linares couldn’t?

Yes and an inside fighter. Not like the guy you are mentioning.

Be a pressure fighter.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Yes and an inside fighter. Not like the guy you are mentioning.

Be a pressure fighter.

Jamaine Ortiz a pressure fighter?

Ortiz fought on the back foot against Loma.

Linares has walked guys down in the past.