Usyk took 80/20 vs Joshua, but 70/30 vs Tyson is a bluff?

[War Room]

What does sliding scale mean?

/ˌslaɪ.dɪŋ ˈskeɪl/ a system in which the rate at which something is paid changes as a result of other conditions

yes, u win u get more, u lose u get less, sliding scale

Yea, NEVER EVER IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING done before. So like yea and twit could see it's an outlandish request and a 100% roadblock to making a fight happen. I'm sick and tired of posting the same thing. Next ****weed post from you, you frilly puff and you're on ignore.

Hmm, or maybe I'll drag you into the dome. I could use another win. Test me.

[Boxing 112]

But if usyk won without any rematch clause he would then be in total control of the belts and joshua would just be a challenger. Therefore, as eddie loves, he and AJ badly wanted the rematch clause and had to make it worthwhile to usyk to agree the clause, u do that by offering a better deal not a worse deal. This had to be done because usyk was a mando and could not be forced to sign a rematch clause if he did not want to.

I thought the same at the time that If he accepted a rematch clause must have offered a better cut. But they didn't we know it was the 25% split (or less). To make it worthwile for Usyk they have offered less than the split i think and then the 50/50 in the rematch is the bargaining chip since he would get a lot more, and like i said a 2nd aj payday would still be more than he would get anywhere else. So Usyks team would have wanted a rematch clause just as much

[CharlieStewart]

Do remember that Chisora was the A-side when Usyk negotiated with Chisora where Chisora was to get 6.9m vs Usyk's 2.2m (later changed to 4m vs 1.5m as guaranteed). Those claiming Usyk has 4 PPV events in the UK need to remember that in all 4 of those events, it was a Brit that was selling the PPV (Joshua, Chisora, Bellew). In Usyk vs Bellew, they both made around £4m because Bellew brought in all the £££ and it wasn't even a rematch clause that Usyk "had" to fight. On his own, Usyk made £1.2m against Chazz Witherspoon.

So let's be honest, a 30% against Fury would probably be greater than his lion's share against his alternate fights with Dubois and Hrogovic combined... maybe even twice as much. And if he wins and gets a 50% in the rematch, it would be more than his entire career earning (except AJ's rematch).

Assuming that Usyk gets the mandatory 80/75% split in his favour as champion and the Dubois fight sells like his other UK fights, that's VERY false.

Everyone seems to be missing that Usyk did FAR better ppv numbers vs Chisora then Fury did. Fury vs Chisora 3 sold HALF (500k on BT sports) of Usyk vs Chisora (1 million+ on sky ppv).

The narrative that Usyk has no commercial viability is a total lie.

****. Usyk - Bellew sold better UK PPV numbers than Fury - Wilder, Fury - Wilder 2, or Fury - Wilder 3.

Fury is no where near the commercial value some of you seem to think he is. Numbers don't lie!

[Zelda]

Assuming that Usyk gets the mandatory 80/75% split in his favour as champion and the Dubois fight sells like his other UK fights, that's VERY false.

Everyone seems to be missing that Usyk did FAR better ppv numbers vs Chisora then Fury did. Fury vs Chisora 3 sold HALF (500k on BT sports) of Usyk vs Chisora (1 million+ on sky ppv).

The narrative that Usyk has no commercial viability is a total lie.

****. Usyk - Bellew sold better UK PPV numbers than Fury - Wilder, Fury - Wilder 2, or Fury - Wilder 3.

Fury is no where near the commercial value some of you seem to think he is. Numbers don't lie!

There are two things you seem to be missing:
1. Fury vs Chisora was a fight no one was calling for, it wasn't competitive, and has been done twice before. It still sold 60,000 seats. Usyk vs Chisora was at least a competitive fight.
2. Where did you pull those numbers from that apparently do not lie? The numbers in themselves are lies. We have no official or reliable source(s) for their numbers.

And if you read my post again, I clearly mention that every time Usyk has fought on PPV in the UK, it has been against a well-known Brit. In other words, Usyk is not the force behind the PPV sale. Sure he is a big contributing factor, but he is not the main force. Fury vs Wilder was fought in the USA. Can you tell me how many PPV Usyk-Bellow sold in the US? If not, why compare apples and oranges?

[Smash]

Next ****weed post from you, you frilly puff and you're on ignore.

Hmm, or maybe I'll drag you into the dome. I could use another win. Test me.

Lets settle this in the Thunderdome, ill be Max & u can be Master Blaster or maybe that little guy who sits on his head lol

I dont think ive ever been put on ignore on this site

[Smash]

I thought the same at the time that If he accepted a rematch clause must have offered a better cut. But they didn't we know it was the 25% split (or less). To make it worthwile for Usyk they have offered less than the split i think and then the 50/50 in the rematch is the bargaining chip since he would get a lot more, and like i said a 2nd aj payday would still be more than he would get anywhere else. So Usyks team would have wanted a rematch clause just as much

i dont get it really, if usyk was entitled to 25% as mando & was agreeing to a rematch clause he didnt have to do & he ends up with less than 25% in the end, that makes him a really dumb person, does it not?

[hugh grant]

Usy k proved he wants big fight by taking less against josh. Don't mean he needs to be taken advantage of every fight.

[Boxing 112]

i dont get it really, if usyk was entitled to 25% as mando & was agreeing to a rematch clause he didnt have to do & he ends up with less than 25% in the end, that makes him a really dumb person, does it not?

But that 25 percent could be as mando without a rematch clause. Maybe the incentive was take what they offer first fight on the basis the rewards in a rematch included will be far greater which it was. But tbh all these promoters Krassyuk Eddie Frank you name it they all contradict themselves so we can't even be certain figures they mention are true. Just like people argue over ppv figures but for the most part no one know the accurate figures publicly for the majority

[Smash]

But tbh all these promoters Krassyuk Eddie Frank you name it they all contradict themselves so we can't even be certain figures they mention are true. Just like people argue over ppv figures but for the most part no one know the accurate figures publicly for the majority

I think we can all agree, that things have moved on from negotiations for the first joshua fight, thats old news, usyk has beaten the golden goosex2, has 3 belts and much bigger name value and profile = bigger pay, that moves on to the next argument, the exact 'fair' split, to which there is no real answer just opinions and talk, which we have done far too much of already hoho