Fury & Warren are LIVID at Usyk

[Smash]

How many pints have you had?

zero pints

[War Room]

zero pints

Perhaps a few glasses of Dingleberry wine?

[_Rexy_]

Why you ducking my replies though lol?

What replies? I've been responding to you.

[_Rexy_]

He was training cause Parker is with him and Isaac Lowe is always with him and they including Furys own account always posts videos of him training. Whether in full camp or not he wasn't doing nothing

When I go to the gym, or when I hit the bag in my garage, I'm not training. Tyson may have been "working out" but he wasn't training.

Just because him and Parker like docking from time to time doesn't mean anything.

[hugh grant]

Fury wanted 50-50 in rematch, if usy k won first fight? I think Fury s delusional

[War Room]

Fury wanted 50-50 in rematch, if usy k won first fight? I think Fury s delusional

That's the same deal AJ gave Usyk. We AJ delusional too?

What replies? I've been responding to you.

The six or so you disappeared from. Want links?

[_Rexy_]

That's the same deal AJ gave Usyk. We AJ delusional too?



The six or so you disappeared from. Want links?

You collecting links on me too? I didn't know I had reached Larry level

Full time single father. I don't try to disappear. Just get busy.

[War Room]

You collecting links on me too? I didn't know I had reached Larry level

Full time single father. I don't try to disappear. Just get busy.

I don't have anything collected, but I can use the search function and find those links if that's what takes to get a reply when I feel like I've painted you into a corner you can't get out of.

I'll go ahead and re-reply.

[Toffee]

It's not completely different, there are a lot of things AJ could have done to prevented the fight. Could have gotten injured, could have asked for a pass to make a bigger fight, could have offered step-aside money, etc.

50% is geneous you say?

AJ may well have done the last two things. We don't know. But Usyk could refuse and insist on either the fight as ordered or for AJ to release the belt.

50% to Usyk was clearly a good offer, though he didn't have to take it. He was a non title holder going in and clearly inferior in selling value.

He's now both holding and offering much more. He backed himself to win twice and he did it.

Not it doesn't. The star is Tyson, facts. Usyk on a PPV on his own will do ****e, you know it, I know it, the world knows it. Nobody will pay $79.99 and do anything over 200k buys with Usyk being the big name.

If Ruiz won the rematch against AJ, same thing. Nobody gives a fuck about Ruiz either. He's got no pull.

Arguing that the belts hold no value is just plain wrong. It's an Undisputed fight. That's what it makes it huge. Usyk has those belts that make it an Undisputed fight. We don't have to like the alphabet titles to understand that they hold value in matchmaking.

Wrong. Usyk wanted 50/50. Then he wanted 60/40 to the winner. The he wanted 1 million pounds donated to Ukraine and a daily billed % if that wasn't met. Alternate reports of him getting 70/30 in the rematch, but I also read that the winnner of the rematch would get the lions share. Usyk said only Fury wanted the rematch when the fight fell apart because Usyk is the one crying for a rematch but also the wants lions share in the rematch. Usyks team is clearly moving the goal posts. You people are nuts to say otherwise. It's all documented out there ffs.

Usyk wanted 50/50... Warren talked about it being a 50/50 type of fight.

You think Usyk going from 50/50 to 60/40 to 70/30 is him moving the goalposts? Read that again... you think him asking for ever decreasing splits is him moving goalposts? Sorry, but that's a major lack of understanding of, well, anything!

If the end position was that Fury was offering 70/30 and a rematch clause with him taking 70% if he wins and 50% if he loses then that's clearly not trying to make the fight(s).

Remember, neither fighter have to make this fight. It's completely voluntary. There needed to be give and take. It's clear to me that Usyk gave a bit (you've said that above with your 50/50, 60/40, 70/30 sequence) and was met with a guy who always wanted to take more and more.

[War Room]

AJ may well have done the last two things. We don't know. But Usyk could refuse and insist on either the fight as ordered or for AJ to release the belt.

50% to Usyk was clearly a good offer, though he didn't have to take it. He was a non title holder going in and clearly inferior in selling value.

He's now both holding and offering much more. He backed himself to win twice and he did it.

Doesn't matter, he has no audience.

Arguing that the belts hold no value is just plain wrong. It's an Undisputed fight. That's what it makes it huge. Usyk has those belts that make it an Undisputed fight. We don't have to like the alphabet titles to understand that they hold value in matchmaking..

They do have value, you're right. But that's just for the sake of regular box office billing. Championship fights 9x out of 10 make more money because that's the selling algorithm, championships.

In this case, the belts are a mere component to how much they can net. Usyk has some hype, but Fury is the star and a megastar at that. My wife asked me if I knew who Tyson Fury was a week or so ago. She doesn't watch boxing (although she's seen a few) or know the names. His name iscoming up in her circles on the web, just regular womanly stuff on YouTube and etc. Usyk could never get the money ANYWHERE else besides a fight with Fury. That is cold hard cacts. The belts and other trimmings are just the cherry on top.

Usyk wanted 50/50... Warren talked about it being a 50/50 type of fight.

I don't know the timeline between that statement, context, or even if it's true, but the negotiations are happening now, not several months past.

You think Usyk going from 50/50 to 60/40 to 70/30 is him moving the goalposts? Read that again... you think him asking for ever decreasing splits is him moving goalposts? Sorry, but that's a major lack of understanding of, well, anything!

There are no ever increasing splits. We were only privy to ONE change. You don't know what they're discussing. Nice try.

If the end position was that Fury was offering 70/30 and a rematch clause with him taking 70% if he wins and 50% if he loses then that's clearly not trying to make the fight(s).

Remember, neither fighter have to make this fight. It's completely voluntary. There needed to be give and take. It's clear to me that Usyk gave a bit (you've said that above with your 50/50, 60/40, 70/30 sequence) and was met with a guy who always wanted to take more and more.

I'm sure it's almost exactly to what he got with AJ. I know for sure they did 50/50 in the rematch and if I know Hearn and AJ, Usyk took 30% going into it, maybe less.

At the end of the day, Klimas made a demand at the end and didn't even give Warren time to consider it, they left the country.

You people come in here with your bias against Fury, Of ye cheated, he did this, he's a traveller, and just not having all the information and expect to be taken seriously. You Usyk supporters are the cancer that eats it's way through everything. It's 100% bias.