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  • #71
    Originally posted by NorvernRob View Post

    The game is up, almost everyone knows that Fury is to blame. His greed and demands have been exposed.
    Almost every hater you mean?

    Originally posted by NorvernRob View Post
    In the 2021 negotiations for undisputed with AJ a 50/50 split was agreed, yet Fury never sold anywhere near the amount of PPV’s AJ did. That’s the difference between a fighter actually wanting a fight and looking for a way out.
    $79.95
    • Fury vs Wilder I: US 325,000 + UK 450,000 (750k)
    • Fury vs Wilder II: US 800,000 to 1.2M + UK [unknown] (1.2M+)
    • Fury vs Wilder III: US 800,000 / UK 300,000 (1.1M)

    £26.95​ ($33.12)
    • AJ vs Usyk 2 at did 1.29M.​
    Originally posted by Smash View Post

    usyk was the mandatory for joshua ya dummy

    hes now beaten joshua twice, has 3 belts, hes in a much stronger position than he was, hello u awake
    After Usyk beat AJ he was a mando?



    Originally posted by Smash View Post

    there are no rematch clauses for mandatory fights unless the challenger agrees to it, so hearn asked usyk would he take the rematch clause, usyk agreed he would for 50%, so usyk no belts no big wins at heavyweight struggled a bit v chisora in his last fight, got 50% off AJ in the rematch if he won
    Usyk got a rematch clause because AJ forced him to take it and at 50/50 was EXTREMELY GENEROUS. if Usyk had lost there would have been no rematch. Usyk is not worth 70% against AJ nor Fury under any conditions at this time or any time. AJ was the star, Fury is the star.

    You're just a simple Fury hater.​

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    • #72
      Both are to blame

      Will Fury fight Joyce next? DOUBT
      Will Usyk fight Wilder next? NO!

      So they both are holding the belts hostage. Joe Joyce needs his shot.

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      • #73
        Tyson Fury haters working over time this week.
        Sctrojan Sctrojan likes this.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by War Room View Post


          After Usyk beat AJ he was a mando?

          ;
          What are u on about?

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Smash View Post

            What are u on about?
            Usyk got a rematch clause because AJ forced him to take it and at 50/50 was EXTREMELY GENEROUS. If Usyk had lost there would have been no rematch. Usyk is not worth 70% against AJ nor Fury under any conditions at this time or any time. AJ was the star, Fury is the star.

            You're just a simple Fury hater.​​

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            • #76
              Originally posted by War Room View Post





              Usyk got a rematch clause because AJ forced him to take it ;
              u cant force a mandatory challenger to sign a rematch clause

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              • #77
                Originally posted by War Room View Post



                Usyk got a rematch clause because AJ forced him to take it and at 50/50 was EXTREMELY GENEROUS. if Usyk had lost there would have been no rematch. Usyk is not worth 70% against AJ nor Fury under any conditions at this time or any time. AJ was the star, Fury is the star.

                You're just a simple Fury hater.​
                The Joshua situation was completely different. You can't force a mandatory to do anything. The rematch suited Joshua and it had to be generous to entice Usyk. That's why Usyk accepted it - he certainly didn't have to. He could have taken his mandated split and fought just one fight.

                In this case he's not the mandatory, he's holding three of the belts. Even just that fact has great value - and I still debate the idea that his reputation alone isn't worth more than 30%.

                The real test is to treat these two fights in isolation before looking at them as a series.

                Usyk would be making 30% as a three belt holder. He'd then only get 50% as an Undisputed Champion fighting a voluntary defence against the guy he just beat.

                The rematch split makes no sense in isolation. And, as a series, it only makes sense if you get more in the first fight.

                Then there's the fact that Fury kept moving the goalposts. 50/50 became 70/30... then no rematch... then a rematch but with Fury taking 50% even if he loses and 70% again if he wins.

                I suspect team Usyk just got to the point where they figured whatever they accepted would just lead to another squeeze from Fury. Even Fury acknowledged that the offer was poor by mocking Usyk's team for only securing 30%.​​​​​​

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Toffee View Post

                  The Joshua situation was completely different. You can't force a mandatory to do anything. The rematch suited Joshua and it had to be generous to entice Usyk. That's why Usyk accepted it - he certainly didn't have to. He could have taken his mandated split and fought just one fight.
                  It's not completely different, there are a lot of things AJ could have done to prevented the fight. Could have gotten injured, could have asked for a pass to make a bigger fight, could have offered step-aside money, etc.

                  50% is geneous you say?

                  Originally posted by Toffee View Post
                  In this case he's not the mandatory, he's holding three of the belts. Even just that fact has great value - and I still debate the idea that his reputation alone isn't worth more than 30%.
                  Not it doesn't. The star is Tyson, facts. Usyk on a PPV on his own will do ****e, you know it, I know it, the world knows it. Nobody will pay $79.99 and do anything over 200k buys with Usyk being the big name.

                  If Ruiz won the rematch against AJ, same thing. Nobody gives a fuck about Ruiz either. He's got no pull.


                  Originally posted by Toffee View Post
                  Then there's the fact that Fury kept moving the goalposts. 50/50 became 70/30... then no rematch... then a rematch but with Fury taking 50% even if he loses and 70% again if he wins.

                  I suspect team Usyk just got to the point where they figured whatever they accepted would just lead to another squeeze from Fury. Even Fury acknowledged that the offer was poor by mocking Usyk's team for only securing 30%.​​​​​​
                  Wrong. Usyk wanted 50/50. Then he wanted 60/40 to the winner. The he wanted 1 million pounds donated to Ukraine and a daily billed % if that wasn't met. Alternate reports of him getting 70/30 in the rematch, but I also read that the winnner of the rematch would get the lions share. Usyk said only Fury wanted the rematch when the fight fell apart because Usyk is the one crying for a rematch but also the wants lions share in the rematch. Usyks team is clearly moving the goal posts. You people are nuts to say otherwise. It's all documented out there ffs.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by War Room View Post

                    there are a lot of things AJ could have done to prevented the fight. Could have gotten injured




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                    just go ask your hero fury why he wouldnt beat usyk for 70% and then beat him again for 70% in the rematch, he wont get a better deal than that LMAO & he ran away crying, usyk was prepared to take 30% and then another 30% if he lost, which he will do easily according to fury, i hear fury has been kicked out of his clan when they explained to him that he left 70%x2 on the table for 1 easy win, fury was demanding less money (50% in the rematch) for an easy fight where he could make another 70%, all on the suggestion of his opponent lol, if thats not exposed i dont know what is, well done usky, oh and thanks for greedybelly too

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Smash View Post

                      just go ask your hero fury why he wouldnt beat usyk for 70% and then beat him again for 70% in the rematch, he wont get a better deal than that LMAO & he ran away crying, usyk was prepared to take 30% and then another 30% if he lost, which he will do easily according to fury, i hear fury has been kicked out of his clan when they explained to him that he left 70%x2 on the table for 1 easy win, fury was demanding less money (50% in the rematch) for an easy fight where he could make another 70%, all on the suggestion of his opponent lol, if thats not exposed i dont know what is, well done usky, oh and thanks for greedybelly too
                      And if Tyson loses the rematch he get's 30% on an unprecedented deal never before seen in the sport of boxing. Especialy for a B-Side who's got zero star power. There is no sliding scale on a rematch clause and I can't ever remember a sliding scale purse that wasn't inside of some sort of tournament.

                      Fury didn't run away crying lol you shithaus dosser. Usyk left the table!!! The last set of negotiations they didn't even let Warren respond, but left the country instead.

                      Do you have some sort of learning disability or handicap?

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