Heart is the most overrated aspect in boxing

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  • Fulcrum29
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    #41
    Originally posted by King Flawless
    Floyd is tough. He fought Castllo with a tore shoulder muscles. That is called being mentally strong and tough. Heart had nothing to do with it
    Well maybe you're just more of a cerebral type of cat. Maybe we all view heart with the same view but just call it something different. To me it's heart to you perhaps it's "intelligence." Because after all when people say "Heart" and toughness it IS in the end actually mental toughness..the actual physiological "heart" inside your chest has nothing to do with it. It's your mental fortitude, willpower, and capacity to not cave in under pressure or duress. So maybe with that new thought I'll give you that.

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    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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      #42
      Originally posted by tito yuca
      This shows what I think is wrong with the Mexican mentality when it comes to boxing. Floyd gave a masterful display of skills, yet you believe getting punched a million times is more deserving of praise. You guys totally miss the point. Winning is the objective of every type of competition. Floyd won in the most convincing, dominating way possible, and Arreola lost in a completely one-sided match. You also miss the point of what boxing is supposed to be. You train for years to develop your skills, so you saying that you respect a fighter who showed little skill more than another one who showed peerless skill is just irrational.



      Look, I respect Arreola for his will to win, but this is BOXING. It's not like basketball, were "not quitting" means just running harder and ****. In here it means getting your brains bashed in, which can, and HAS lead to dementia and DEATH. This is why I say it IS ****** to go on fighting when you are getting beat up to the point that it's impossible that you'll win.
      Damn dude, you really don't get it do you? What I respect isn't that JMM was getting punched int he face. I'm not sitting on my couch yelling "YEa!!! he's taking a beating but won't go down!"....hahah

      No man, I'm just giving the man props because EVERYONE knoew Mayweather was bigger, stronger and faster than JMM and JMM had no chance. I give him props for taking the fight and lasting 12 rounds in the face of defeat and when most other fighters would have quit.

      DO you not get that?

      Originally posted by tito yuca
      When I said "prove" I didn't mean only to other people, in fact, more than anything, I believe he needed to prove to HIMSELF that he'd go the distance.

      You say this is a "Mexican thing" I can't understand, well, trying to protect yourself and your health is a HUMAN thing, and I expect you to understand this. Vargas had so much talent, and was never the same after the fight. He would've had a longer career if he just accepted that he was going to lose. Morales did this in his last fight against Pacquiao. He was already ruined from refusing to quit in countless other wars, but this move served his brain and his body well.
      Look, boxing is a brutal sport, it's not for the feint of heart. If you don't like getting hit, then play basketball, tennis or something else. As a fighter, it's your job to go 100% and give it your all. Like Marquez said, "I'm ready to die in that ring". You may think that's ****** but in a COMBAT SPORT, that's the mentality you have to have.

      You know the old timers had that mentality and I think it's just your generation that has changed that. Men aren't the same anymore, they are weaker and see quitting as an option. Well I don't and I respect anyone who gets in the ring and RISKS THEIR LIFE, because that's what boxing is.

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      • NachoMan
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        #43
        Originally posted by tito yuca
        When I said "prove" I didn't mean only to other people, in fact, more than anything, I believe he needed to prove to HIMSELF that he'd go the distance.

        You say this is a "Mexican thing" I can't understand, well, trying to protect yourself and your health is a HUMAN thing, and I expect you to understand this. Vargas had so much talent, and was never the same after the fight. He would've had a longer career if he just accepted that he was going to lose. Morales did this in his last fight against Pacquiao. He was already ruined from refusing to quit in countless other wars, but this move served his brain and his body well.
        He may have had a longer career, but who would have given a **** about it if he threw in the towel every time he thought he might lose or get hurt? People who are overly concerned with their health don't step into the ring in the first place. They pick a different game. A fighter's heart and courage are his most admirable qualities. How many great fighters have there ever been who have lacked heart? It's what makes them heroes to so many others. They endure **** that the rest of us can only imagine. How any serious fan can diminish the importance of heart to a fighter is beyond me.

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        • Cuauhtémoc1520
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          #44
          Originally posted by NachoMan
          He may have had a longer career, but who would have given a **** about it if he threw in the towel every time he thought he might lose or get hurt? People who are overly concerned with their health don't step into the ring in the first place. They pick a different game. A fighter's heart and courage are his most admirable qualities. How many great fighters have their ever been who have lack heart? It's what makes them heroes to so many others. They endure **** that the rest of us can only imagine. How any serious fan can diminish the importance of heart to a fighter is beyond me.
          Great post man and you get it....

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          • JAB5239
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            #45
            Originally posted by King Flawless
            I can’t believe some boxers pride themselves on heart and courage. It’s quite pathetic.

            I don’t think HEART matters at all.
            Example
            Pavlik-Taylor. They say Pavlik had heart coming back from the knock down to win. I don’t see it that way. JT punches were not enough to stop Pavlik. If a fighter gets up from a knock down, it doesn’t mean they have heart. It simply means that punch didn’t affect them much,

            People who continue fighter when damaged has nothing to do with heart. It just them being ******
            So what would you call it when one fighter is totally outclassed in the skills department and losing an entire fight but keeps pressing and pressing and eventually scores the ko? That is heart and it is a traitall fighters hope they possess.

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            • Cadillac Man
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              #46
              ******ED POST! u HAVE OBVIOUSLY NEVER BEEN IN THE RING! Ask any trainer or Boxer mental/heart is 90 percent of the game.

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              • BadNewz
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                #47
                Great fighters with superior athletic talent don't need heart cuz they'll beat you easily. If people say you have heart, they're just trying to make you feel better for sucking.

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                • prtyboybladeage
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                  #48
                  Heart is not overrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  Signed,

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                  • t.boone.pickenz
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                    #49
                    zab judah should cop sum heart

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                    • Syf
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                      #50
                      well TS, I couldn't disagree more...

                      I mean even in workouts and training heart is required. Without it, one couldn't push themselves passed the limit to become better

                      And in a fight doubly so. I tend to doubt your so called boxing and street fights. Either that, or you just never got into it with someone good that made you dig deep down.

                      whatever

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