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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
    This the same Frank Warren who told Usyk's team that Fury was demanding so much money that they'd lose money even if Usyk fought for free?

    Fury clearly didn't think Usyk would agree to 70/30 and then decided to make an issue about something else when his bluff got called. The idiots saying Usyk should just sign don't realize that it would just be something else, and something else and something else. That's been Fury's MO for his whole career. He's never fought a single unification fight. Not one.
    If you just sign, you're locked in.

    This derailed over the rematch. Usyk wanted that, not Fury.

    Why did NSB criticize Tank for his rematch demand but not Usyk?

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  • crimsonfalcon07
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    This the same Frank Warren who told Usyk's team that Fury was demanding so much money that they'd lose money even if Usyk fought for free?

    Fury clearly didn't think Usyk would agree to 70/30 and then decided to make an issue about something else when his bluff got called. The idiots saying Usyk should just sign don't realize that it would just be something else, and something else and something else. That's been Fury's MO for his whole career. He's never fought a single unification fight. Not one.

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  • KillaCamNZ
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    For a long time, I thought Fury was a f***ing idiot. Then, I came around to him because he seemed to pull his head in, and focus on fighting. He became the top guy in the divison.

    Now, I hate to say it, but he's gotten f***ing lazy. Pairing that with a promoter who's trying to cover that up, by dragging negotiations on and on, and you've got a combination of absolute muppets. Usyk's camp has clearly gotten tired of it, and now Frank Warren is in damage control.

    A couple of absolute clowns, who represent a sport that's slowly rotting. Fury's been coasting on natural talent for a while, and he's made enough money to last multiple lifetimes. He's never been motivated to get in shape, and now he doesn't even seem motivated to sign a f***ing piece of paper.

    Let's move on. Fury's dead weight right now.
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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    Warren says that Usyk was trying to negotiate rematch split?

    Usyk is the B-Side. He should have just signed on the line.

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  • Kzbox
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    Originally posted by Willowthewisp View Post
    The guy who's taking 30% to go into the other fighter's backyard for, and lets not forget *undisputed heavyweight* is ducking. The guy who has won all of his belts in his opponents backyards, including an undisputed in a country that his is now at war with. He's ducking. Right.

    He's ducking the guy who claimed he would fight for free, and then demanded 70% of the purse and the fight to be in his own backyard. The guy who couldn't get a fight done with a guy that was coming off 2 losses who he offered the fight to.

    Call me crazy but Fury has now:
    - Backed out of a Klitschko rematch due to injury.
    - Tried to back out of a Wilder rematch but was taken to court.
    - Backed out of a fight he wanted with AJ after he lost twice in a row.
    - But rematched Chisora who he never lost to.

    Clearly the problem here is Usyk
    Usyk also said he would fight for free so this narrative is a little silly in the context of things even eddie hearn agrees with Fury about market value i would say more 60 - 40 is fair but not like Usyk wasn't holding out for more either that's just business and he got played.

    - Backed out of the klitschko rematch due to mental issues why would he be afraid to fight the guy who did nothing in their first fight? Klitschko was shook in that fight deer in the headlights.
    - Nobody wanted to see Fury fight Wilder for a third time so people agreed with Fury on that at the time but now want to use it as a point? what
    - Eddie Hearn and AJ didn't even want that fight and even admitted as much now they are claiming they would take the fight after Franklin cuz what else can AJ do? if you believe he wanted that fight at that time u are gullible but you don't just using it as a "point" against Fury.
    - Fury has said for years he would give Chisora that 3rd fight so even when he does stick to his word its still used against him?

    Listen i'm pissed off with Fury on not budging either but this is just a silly witch hunt at this stage for old Wilder fans/AJ fans having a feast. The bias is real what are these big lists of demands Fury is asking for that has put this fight to a stop does anybody know or just blaming Fury and thinking they know everything?
    Last edited by Kzbox; 03-22-2023, 06:32 PM.
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  • Straightener
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    Just read something that gave me food for thought

    Maybe fury is back on the wild boar … wouldn’t put it past him

    Can’t see why he would pull out of a 70/30 spilt against a middle weight . Maybe he’s not got enough time to cycle his gear out

    Who knows , we will never know

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  • juggernaut666
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    Originally posted by Willowthewisp View Post
    The guy who's taking 30% to go into the other fighter's backyard for, and lets not forget *undisputed heavyweight* is ducking. The guy who has won all of his belts in his opponents backyards, including an undisputed in a country that his is now at war with. He's ducking. Right.

    He's ducking the guy who claimed he would fight for free, and then demanded 70% of the purse and the fight to be in his own backyard. The guy who couldn't get a fight done with a guy that was coming off 2 losses who he offered the fight to.

    Call me crazy but Fury has now:
    - Backed out of a Klitschko rematch due to injury.
    - Tried to back out of a Wilder rematch but was taken to court.
    - Backed out of a fight he wanted with AJ after he lost twice in a row.
    - But rematched Chisora who he never lost to.

    Clearly the problem here is Usyk
    You forgot Fury tried to fight Charr but got destroyed on social media then made a deal with Chisora before Joshua and then a second deal after he gave Joshua a deadline . Fury’s the ultimate car salesman of boxing with the current worse fan base on social media but that’s even shrinking . Lol
    Last edited by juggernaut666; 03-22-2023, 05:52 PM.

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee View Post

    Fury agreed to 50/50 rematch clause and also no rematch.

    Wallin is 6'6 and a big guy. Fury apparently didn't take him too seriously.

    Also, Usyk looked mediocre vs Chisora. Chisora isn't all that great.
    This is cliche but styles make fights.

    Also? The Chisora who Usyk fought 'Was still a World level fighter'.

    The Chisora who Fury last faced, was miles out of condition.

    On the sly that was also Usyk's first real big fight at Heavyweight.

    Fury has been smacked about in his career at all levels 'This is what people seem to overlook'.

    Fury was smacked about, beaten up and decked at Domestic, European and World level 'Have you not followed his career? Or have you only started watching his fights since Wilder I? A which was a draw, and a fight I personally don't think he won.

    You don't win World titles by being decked twice, and backed up all night.

    So to criticize Usyk for his performance vs Chisora, is not really relevant 'I don't think you are proving much'.

    Usyk has beaten Anthony Joshua twice, in his last two fights 'Fury's last two wins are nowhere near the level of Joshua'.
    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 03-22-2023, 05:48 PM.
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  • Toffee
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    Originally posted by Willowthewisp View Post
    The guy who's taking 30% to go into the other fighter's backyard for, and lets not forget *undisputed heavyweight* is ducking. The guy who has won all of his belts in his opponents backyards, including an undisputed in a country that his is now at war with. He's ducking. Right.

    He's ducking the guy who claimed he would fight for free, and then demanded 70% of the purse and the fight to be in his own backyard. The guy who couldn't get a fight done with a guy that was coming off 2 losses who he offered the fight to.

    Call me crazy but Fury has now:
    - Backed out of a Klitschko rematch due to injury.
    - Tried to back out of a Wilder rematch but was taken to court.
    - Backed out of a fight he wanted with AJ after he lost twice in a row.
    - But rematched Chisora who he never lost to.

    Clearly the problem here is Usyk
    Also walked away from a WBC ordered rematch with 40% of the split with Wilder to fight Tom Schwarz.

    And petitioned for 80/20 against his only mandatory.
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  • Willowthewisp
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    The guy who's taking 30% to go into the other fighter's backyard for, and lets not forget *undisputed heavyweight* is ducking. The guy who has won all of his belts in his opponents backyards, including an undisputed in a country that his is now at war with. He's ducking. Right.

    He's ducking the guy who claimed he would fight for free, and then demanded 70% of the purse and the fight to be in his own backyard. The guy who couldn't get a fight done with a guy that was coming off 2 losses who he offered the fight to.

    Call me crazy but Fury has now:
    - Backed out of a Klitschko rematch due to injury.
    - Tried to back out of a Wilder rematch but was taken to court.
    - Backed out of a fight he wanted with AJ after he lost twice in a row.
    - But rematched Chisora who he never lost to.

    Clearly the problem here is Usyk

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