Comments Thread For: Fury's Promoter: There is No Reason For Usyk Negotiations To Be Called Off!

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  • _Rexy_
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    Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee

    I get that perspective. There is the fact that Fury is in camp with Sugarhill. That would tell me that this rematch clause issue is something Usyk's side came up with after Fury was in camp, meaning in Fury's mind, the deal was as good as done.

    if you remember, Fury proposed a fight last year and Usyk said he needed rest and a break. Usyk isn't ******, he knows Fury is by far the hardest fight he has ever taken. He may be delaying it and seeing if Fury will retire, allowing Usyk to fight an easier fight to unify.

    Fury offered 70/30 because he could. Usyk accepted it and apparently Fury agreed to give a million to Ukraine. Fury went into camp two weeks ago, he apparently thought it was done. Now Usyk suddenly stops the fight because of a rematch clause issue?

    I think the Usyk Joshua fights really oversold people on Usyk at HW. Usyk is no fool though.
    He's not in camp with Sugarhill. Sugarhill is in the UK for Okollie's fight this weekend.


    That's why Fury's photos with Sugar that he uploaded were all from an older camp.

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  • Gideon lock
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    Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee
    Fury is not scared of Usyk. He is way bigger, just as good a boxer and Usyk couldn't hurt Anchinny Joshua. He ain't hurting Fury, who took Wilder's rights and won all three fights.

    I love Usyk. Been a favorite fighter of mine for years. Usyk knows he likely loses against Fury. He may believe he can win, but the realist part of him knows that Fury is too big and too good, and a fight against him is a nightmare.

    Fury knows this and he also knows that Usyk will make millions more fighting him at 70/30 than he will fighting Dubois or anyone else. Usyk stands to make a huge payday against Fury. But Usyk has kind of painted himself into a corner. He hasn't got long left in his career, and he is now facing guys far larger than him. He put on masterful performances against AJ. AJ has never been the same since Ruiz stopped him. He fights scared now. And he most likely will never be the same.

    Usyk certainly knows this about AJ. And he knows Fury is coming to cave his head in. And Dubois could seriously hurt him, as well as a few of the other top 10 HW's. Usyk is really undersized and his skill level was too much for ruined AJ. But these other guys aren't going to fight tentative, they are going use their weight and power to try and smash Usyk.

    Usyk makes at least three or four times fighting Fury at 70/30 than he does anyone else. If they want a rematch clause and are wrangling over that.....it just appears to me that Usyk isn't all that confident about fighting Fury, and that he knows his options after the AJ fights aren't great.
    That's all well and good but fact is the last southpaw who fury fought (wallin) he nearly lost against him. Usyk is better than wallin in most categories. Fury is stalling. Running scared.

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  • juggernaut666
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    Originally posted by Monty Fisto
    "You know why they want the rematch clause? Because it’s two paydays. Where are they gonna earn the type of money they can earn fighting Tyson twice? They aren’t gonna get that type of money to fight Filip Hrgovic, Joe Joyce or Daniel Dubois."

    And yet they are now looking to Dubois without fighting Fury once and previously accepted a slanted 70/30 split to try and make the fight happen.

    From where I sit, it's obvious that team Fury that has been throwing up the obstacles and it's been team Usyk that has been clambering over them to try and make the fight. And now there's been one obstacle too many.
    The problem here is DDD and Joyce are U.K rivalry domestic fights . Fury will make more fighting them ,then a Usyk would and he’d hog the negotiations there as well ..lol

    This why Fury doesn’t actually care if this fight happens, both those other fights are easier ( depending which Joyce shows up ) but regardless he views Usyk as a legit threat so he’s put a 70/30 bluff that got us here before sabotaging the Saudi deal .

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  • ELPacman
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    Again, this is why boxing sucks. Rather than making your mandatory the obvious choice the people want to see, they have to go through the rankings, even if the guy right below you is total garbage. It's just a, let's make some money while we continue to stretch out the negotiations for the fight the actual public gives an F about. So damn ******. It's a time waster, can ruin the actual fight people want if the mandatory wins, and in this situation, allows the one guy to age further out of his prime (Usyk).

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  • MANNY67
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    What a load of rubbish this whole saga,they should just go their separate ways

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  • War Room
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    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Fury is a great champ but hes going a bit overboard here with the demands.

    Appears Bob is negatively influencing him to do dumb shit.

    He has Fury looking weak and scared to fight Usyk when he clearly isnt.

    I was really excited about this fight.
    You should probably start reading content instead of headlines lmao.

    Originally posted by Frank Warren
    Tyson publicly stated that we should scrap the rematch, this was to simplify the deal. Rematch clauses can be very difficult and Tyson’s been there before when a rematch blocked a fight with him and Anthony Joshua [in 2021] when Deontay Wilder took him to court. That kyboshed that fight with Joshua.

    Anyway, I convinced Tyson to take the rematch [with Usyk] and he did. So I told them on Sunday we’re gonna go with the rematch. Then we got into a situation with how the rematch money is gonna be split and that’s what we’ve been working on… Why can’t it be overcome if he wants the fight? We want the fight, why can’t it be overcome?… There’s no reason for this fight to be off.
    Warren indicates that Usyk and his handlers have been pressing to get a rematch clause set down - because of the amount of money involved.

    Originally posted by Frank Warren
    You know why they want the rematch clause? Because it’s two paydays. Where are they gonna earn the type of money they can earn fighting Tyson twice? They aren’t gonna get that type of money to fight Filip Hrgovic, Joe Joyce or Daniel Dubois. But Tyson brings a lot of money to the table, that’s why they want it.

    We are willing to take the same deal as what they did for their rematch with Anthony Joshua. I know what that deal is so we’ll go with that, no problem with that.

    Originally posted by _Rexy_

    So this tweet is trustworthy, but Usyk's tweet in response, saying he didn't ask for a rematch clause and he's already signed off on everything is NOT trustworthy?


    I forgot Tyson Fury was the textbook example of truthfulness on here.

    So um, yea, hihi! lol





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  • MrShakeAndBake
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    Originally posted by Nash out
    With Usyk ducking the fight, I think we should just award the win to Fury and move on. Nash out
    ahaha thats some demented bs right there lol Usyk accepted 30% , its FURY DUCKING.

    I am actually glad Usyk walked away from fury's crazy demands, 70/30 is a robbery when you have 3 champions belts on your waist, and got 50% from his last fight with a much popular boxer AJ. Time for Usyk to defend the belts and make his money and for ****ehead go fight chisora for the 7th time..

    Its a wrap.
    Last edited by MrShakeAndBake; 03-22-2023, 12:34 PM.

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  • Straightener
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    You can’t spin this situation

    Fury obviously didn’t want the fight … simple as that

    As soon as usyk agreed to the 70/30 his arze fell out . He’s holding the belt hostage basically

    Warren is so predictable is unbelievable, how people still fall the bs is beyond me

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  • BlackRobb
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    Nobody even cares about this fight anymore. Crawford-Spence will soon be relegated to "Pfffffffffft" realm soon too.

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  • Hooded Terror
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    So here we go again. Fury will dig up another contender, or worse, Wilder. Usyk will face his mandatories which means he'll be stripped at some point or show-up a quart low in about a year and get edged. Its all for naught.

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