Boxers that "miss the weight", fight in the wrong division

[JakeTheBoxer]

It is that simple. You can`t be for example, a welterweight, if you walk around with 180 lbs and than come with silly excuses why you missed the weight.

There is no such thing as "struggling to make the weight". If you can`t make 175, f.uck you and go to the higher division.

Give us the same day weight in back, please. Hagler made the weight on the same day.

[REMOVE SHARK 5510]

I agree, those extreme weight cuts where fighters literally can't stand on the scale are just ridiculous and dangerous. If you are professional athlete you should be ready to fight on short notice without cutting weight.

[BoxingParadigm]

I'm not a fan of the drastic weight cuts either. Would love to get back to same day weigh ins.

[4truth]

Professional fighters will make weight no matter what. Unprofessional fighters will sometimes miss weight for no particular reason other than lack of discipline. Miss weight in this business and it might be some time before you are trusted and signed to appear in a big fight. For reference, see David Benevidez.

imagine Benevidez showing up 3 pounds over for his Canelo payday or testing positive for *******. This business has a long memory because a lot of important people’s money is at stake when one guy fcks up.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Same day weigh-ins would improve the sport dramatically. So would cutting the number of divisions. I'm for the original eight but at the least, can we do away with some of the three and four pound difference weights? Is anyone really going to cry if junior lightweight is gone? If it was, you'd have all the junior lightweights and lightweights be forced into fighting each other. Great things all around. A sport can only have so many stars and champions to keep up with. No one follows all of boxing because it's damn near impossible to do so. I'm liking how many unified champions there are right now. It's better than it's been in a long time. I do admire that. Cut down the divisions and things get even more interesting. Plus each title holds a lot more prestige.

[SplitSecond]

Same day weigh-ins would improve the sport dramatically. So would cutting the number of divisions. I'm for the original eight but at the least, can we do away with some of the three and four pound difference weights? Is anyone really going to cry if junior lightweight is gone? If it was, you'd have all the junior lightweights and lightweights be forced into fighting each other. Great things all around. A sport can only have so many stars and champions to keep up with. No one follows all of boxing because it's damn near impossible to do so. I'm liking how many unified champions there are right now. It's better than it's been in a long time. I do admire that. Cut down the divisions and things get even more interesting. Plus each title holds a lot more prestige.

Those corrupt sanctioning bodies would be pissed with the money they’d lose out on with less divisions.

Boxing fans should more avidly hate, disregard and sht on the belt Organisations tbh. They need to be ostracised from the sport. WBC, WBA etc should be no more important than other international or local titles no one gives two shts about. Ring Mag needs to be the only one that matters.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Those corrupt sanctioning bodies would be pissed with the money they’d lose out on with less divisions.

Boxing fans should more avidly hate, disregard and sht on the belt Organisations tbh. They need to be ostracised from the sport. WBC, WBA etc should be no more important than other international or local titles no one gives two shts about. Ring Mag needs to be the only one that matters.

Well, given how many unified champions there are, the alphabet organizations are getting that message from the fans. They have to know that their sanctioning fee party can't go on forever. Not only are fans tired of it. The boxers are tired of paying them as well. I'd love to see them merge into one organization. That may never happen but I agree. The more we complain and disregard them, the more they'll realize how unpopular the are and who knows? It takes a lot of time and pressure to make change happen. I'm happy to keep bashing them from here on out. And if it was just the ring belt, that would be fine with me.

[Roadblock]

The moment they have 30 hrs to rehydrate the door was opened for abuse because not everybody can cut weight the same and weight/size is a very big advantage in boxing forcing them to try to be as big as they can be at the weight, when fighters push these limits they can miss weight, often they are on such a fine edge that last pound is a killer, and for others like Zurdo 12 pounds is ridiculous.

The Commission should make a rule that if you miss weight the penalty is you must from then on fight in the next division, they could also force that rule by how much you rehydrate on fight night, if its a massive amount like 20 plus pounds you must move up, its all on the Commission I feel.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Good post.

Fighters missing the weight or complaining to make the weight 'Is a bi-product of the toxic modern day weight draining culture in boxing'.

These reports and complaints will most likely continue 'Under the day before weigh in rule'.

Because it was the introduction, of the day before weigh in rule 'Which has helped create a environment in the sport. That promotes and entices fighters to opportunistically weight drain themselves to a level that was not present or apart the training culture of past boxing era's'.

If the same day weigh in rule, was still being used in boxing today 'Fighters would have to fight closer to their natural weight, just like the old school fighters from past era's'.

Under the same day weigh in rule, toxic training methodologies such as weight draining 'Would be forced out of the sport or severely hampered'.

Because it is common sense to fighters, coaches or any individual at any level of the sport 'Regardless of whether they understand the physiological science, and negative acute and long term effects of weight draining'.

Fighters will learn real quick, that it is not safe or optimal for their performance 'To weight drain themselves under the same day weigh in rule, without consequences' that the fighters and coaches will become aware of.

Note: Ultimately the main way the sport of boxing can tackle this issue, is to alter the weigh rules 'In such a way that does not invite or promote the toxic training culture of weight draining' etc.

[Roadblock]

Good post.

Fighters missing the weight or complaining to make the weight 'Is a bi-product of the toxic modern day weight draining culture in boxing'.

These reports and complaints will most likely continue 'Under the day before weigh in rule'.

Because it was the introduction, of the day before weigh in rule 'Which has helped create a environment in the sport. That promotes and entices fighters to opportunistically weight drain themselves to a level that was not present or apart the training culture of past boxing era's'.

If the same day weigh in rule, was still being used in boxing today 'Fighters would have to fight closer to their natural weight, just like the old school fighters from past era's'.

Under the same day weigh in rule, toxic training methodologies such as weight draining 'Would be forced out of the sport or severely hampered'.

Because it is common sense to fighters, coaches or any individual at any level of the sport 'Regardless of whether they understand the physiological science, and negative acute and long term effects of weight draining'.

Fighters will learn real quick, that it is not safe or optimal for their performance 'To weight drain themselves under the same day weigh in rule, without consequences' that the fighters and coaches will become aware of.

Note: Ultimately the main way the sport of boxing can tackle this issue, is to alter the weigh rules 'In such a way that does not invite or promote the toxic training culture of weight draining' etc.

The reason they changed the same day weighin rules was because fighters were going into fights semi dehydrated which is very dangerous, same day weighin is not the end all perfect answer, they must find a dehydration measuring system that can be enforced so that fighters neither abuse the 30hr limit or fight dehydrated, the only real way to solve it is to blood test hydration percentages and have a set percentage you must be which would cut out any fluctuation of fluids, that hydration point is your division, the way it is all guesswork by shedding as much water as possible then try and put it all back, the problem is the body doesn't work like this as once you hit a certain point it wont go back into the cells without IV fluids so its a very fine line fighters sit on.