Fury vs Usyk, whoever wins enters the top 10 ALL TIME rankings?

[j0zef]

Don't think either of them make Top10 ATG HWs, but yeah, if Usyk wins that fight he jumps right up to Holyfield to the title of greatest CW turn HW. But even with that, his resume would be thin unless he has at least 2 more quality wins. For Fury, win over Usyk doesn't do anything. He's gonna be a 5-1 favorite to the huge size disparity.

Top10 ATG HW is not a joke list. Which one of these would you even think of bumping down (not in order)
Ali
Joe Louis
Smoking Joe Frazier
Foreman
Lennox
Larry Holmes
Mike Tyson
Holyfield
Sonny Liston
Marciano

Then you have all the old timer ATGs - Tunney, Dempsey, Greb, Ezzard Charles, etc. I'm sure I forgot 5 worthy names too.

[Hooded Terror]

Is Usyk even top 50 P4P ATG? He ain't even top 3 P4P after Mayweather era. He was from CW which is the least significant division historically. If he beats Fury (which is near-impossible) he would be around top 30 ATG at most.

Fury can become top 5 ATG in HW in terms of resume. He is already H2H GOAT in my book.

In this day and age of one bout every 12 months for a BUSY titlist, I see no way Usyk makes it into the top-ten ATG as a heavyweight off of five showings against two significant champions. IF he defeats Fury and goes on to hand L's to Joyce, Hrgovic and somebody fun, like maybe Makhmudov, then maybe I'll buy a pint and we can discuss the matter once again. As for Fury being GOAT in a head to head scenario, its very plausible. Can you imagine the build-up he'd give us leading into a Marciano or Frazier clash?

[Silence]

If that is the resume of a HOFer/ATG then everyone is a HOFer/ATG

I will give Fury the benefit of the doubt with some LIMITED H2H Fantasy ''fights''

Fury should have it easy vs the likes of Rocky and other small ''HW'' from the 50's and 60's.
Once he starts facing guys Ali fought, it's a wrap.
Same with Usyk, although he wouldn't need dirty tactics to win.

The Wlad Fury AND AJ fought was the shell of himself.
He was not going to beat any ''legit'' HW
Although I could have seen him beating....
Dum Boy, Otto, Cunny, Whyte

Bruh, there is nothing special about Dum Boy, Otto, Cunny, Whyte
Wilder is able to thrive because this is a terrible era.

I'm surprised Fury fans have the gall to use Wilder as a name
Up until the very minute they fought, you guys were saying his resume was pure shlt and all he had was one punch.
How can Wilder's resume ALL OF A SUDDEN be worth bragging about ?!?!?

That's like May fans saying Gatti is a good name to have.
Or Pac fans saying Rios is a good name to have.

- Klitschko has the longest championship run in HW history. He is ATG. Fury beat his unified version.
- Wilder has tons of title defense. He is the hardest puncher ever.
- Usyk is unified and beat the poster boy of the division twice. Fury will beat a unified champion just like Wlad.
- Whyte was at his prime and couldn't land anything on Fury.
- Chisora was prime twice. His third version gave hell to Usyk who Fury beat at his 25%.
- Wallin is problematic southpaw.
- Cunningham is very slick CW and had HW run.

Again, if you wanna hate him you can hate forever. I think he is top #1 H2H and will be top #5 overall.

[techliam]

Does whoever win enter the top 10 list of greatest fighters of ALL time? Usyk will have become undisputed champion in two weight categories and I believe that would be the first guy to ever do that. And fury would become undisputed and shown his versatility at being able to beat every style put in front of him

Holyfield was Undisputed at both Heavyweight and Cruiserweight already

cant think of any other multi-weight Undisputed champion in the 3-4 belt era

[REMOVE SHARK 5510]

Fury fans about Wilder: horrible boxer and one trick pony. A bum. ****ty resume

Fury fans about Wilder when talkin about Furys resume: One of the greatest puncher in history. Will knock out everyone not named Fury. 10x title defenses.

Fury fans about Usyk: Middleweight, won a bodybuilder, lose to Chisora.

Fury fans about Usyk when talkin about Furys resume: Will put Fury #1 atg

[hugh grant]

I kind of think if Fury wins he can be top ten all time in heavyweights. I feel Usyk should campaign a little longer at heavyweight and then he could be top ten also, considering Usyk beats a few more heavyweights. Of course Usyk would be a pfp higher ATG than Fury though.

[Willow The Wisp]

ATGness is more than a W or 2....it's about the body of work.

There are no good HW's here to build up a decent resume.
Usyk is good and if Fury beats him and then retires with all the belts, still doesn't make up for a shltty resume.

Fury's claim to fame -
A non fight with Wlad...these cvnts gave compubox the night off
Going 2-1-0 with a one trick pony (dirty tactics were Fury's best weapons)
And Usyk.
Usyk would be his best win...if it was fair n square.
Most refs let Fury be as dirty as he wants.
Unfortunately, the voters will let Fury into the HOF.

Usyk's claim to fame -
A ''MW'' who climbed the divs and won the majority of the HW belts.
If he wins and retires, he will be 100 spots higher than Fury on the HOF list

Neither guy is an ATG

In fact, they wouldn't even make the ATG top 15 HWs -
Ali
Holmes
Lewis
Vit
Foreman
Holy
Wlad
Tua
Bowe
Mercer
Mike T
Louis
John Ruiz
Morrison
Maybe the winner lands here ?

Pretty out there. No offense.

[BodyBagz]

- Klitschko WAS the longest championship run in HW history. He is ATG. Fury beat his unified version.
- Wilder has tons of title defense. He is the hardest puncher ever.
- Usyk is unified and beat the poster boy of the division twice. Fury will beat a unified champion just like Wlad.
- Whyte was at his prime and couldn't land anything on Fury.
- Chisora was prime twice. His third version gave hell to Usyk who Fury beat at his 25%.
- Wallin is problematic southpaw.
- Cunningham is very slick CW and had HW run.

Again, if you wanna hate him you can hate forever. I think he is top #1 H2H and will be top #5 overall.

''Was'' not ''has'', should be bold
By the time Fury and AJ got to him, he was spent.
And please, Fury and Wlad did not fight.
More like a staring contest with brief moments of ''activity''.
I guess the Joe Louis Rocky beat was a legit W too
And obviously the Ali Holmes beat was legit

Why was it only until AFTER Fury won was Wilder considered ''great'' ?!?!?
Who is Wilder's best win again ?!?!?

A ''prime'' Whyte....hhmmm...same level as a prime Elijah Tillery?!?!?
I'd say worse.
Both Whyte and Fury were sloppy AF in there.
The people who attended that farce got screwed.

A ''prime'' Dum Boy.....hhhmmm.....do you expect me to be impressed ?!?!?
Who is his best win (and don't tell me shlt about any ''almost'' won BS)
Fighting Dum Boy 3x made every sense in the world

Otto nearly blinded the goof and MW Cunny hit Fury so hard, Fury started to go bald.
What are they doing nowadays ?!?!

I hate Fury and everything about him.
He talks too much
He is clumsy AF
Dirty AF
Has a weak resume
His fans anointing him the greatest boxer that ever lived also fuels the hate

[BodyBagz]

Pretty out there. No offense.

Your reply lacks insight

[Mooshashi]

Stop the cap. If Fury wins, he will be top 5 ATG in HW.

Klitschko
3x Wilder
Usyk
Whyte
3x Chisora
Wallin
Cunningham

That's some ***in serious resume.

In HW history Ali, Lewis and Holyfield are best in terms of resume. There is a huge margin after them. Fury can sit on there.

In terms of H2H, he is already best ever imo. Only Lewis and Vitali would be competitive.

Wow...some seriously delusional comments here. You may be suffering from the same mental issues that Fury has. In fact, you ARE seriously mental. Fury's resume is crap. Aside from the Wlad win, which is considered by many in the boxing world to have been the absolute nadir of HW history, he has no one on his list of wins that can be considered a HOFer. No one else.

I would give credit to Fury for defeating Usyk and place him in the back half of top 15 all time HW'S. But ATG? GTFOH.