Comments Thread For: Team Usyk Warn Fury: If Fight Date Moves, Then Split is 50-50

[Oregonian]

It's never fear with professional boxers. Certainly not with someone like Fury. He's not scared of anyone.

From a business perspective they might see risk. Wilder always carries some risk as a puncher (maybe 1 in 10 for Fury?) but decent financial reward. Someone like Chisora carries practically no risk and still a decent financial reward.

If you want my opinion on Fury... Fury is fearless. He's happy to fight anyone for the title of champion and he truly believes he'll win. Once he's got that title, he does what he wants, and that doesn't include taking chances with guys who might beat him. Especially not when someone is ordering him to do it. At a minimum he tries to find a way to make things happen only on his terms.

I feel like that's been pretty well evidenced over the years.

It won't shock me if he doesn't fight Usyk. In fact it would be pretty out of character for him if he did fight Usyk. There's a fair bit for him to gain but he could be usurped as number one. And he seems convinced that people believe him when he says he beats anyone and doesn't really need to prove it.

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I hear your points. They make sense. If the fight happens and Fury beats up Usyk who is truly a resilient fighter, who else is there for Fury to fight that’s actually a threat? Fury could fight the next top 5 HW after Usyk, beat them all and retire. There is no one other than Usyk that can give a good account of themselves against Fury.

[Toffee]

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I hear your points. They make sense. If the fight happens and Fury beats up Usyk who is truly a resilient fighter, who else is there for Fury to fight that’s actually a threat? Fury could fight the next top 5 HW after Usyk, beat them all and retire. There is no one other than Usyk that can give a good account of themselves against Fury.

Top 5 heavyweights are a threat to anyone on their day. It's the heavyweights - you can get tagged and finished. He wouldn't be the first to get upset.

But if he beats Usyk he can legitimately retire as a great. He'd have beaten 3 of the 4 credible champions of his era. That puts him very favourably in the history books.

Beating Joshua would still carry weight though - he'd be the last remaining one for him to beat. And it will always be a massive fight.

[juggernaut666]

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I hear your points. They make sense. If the fight happens and Fury beats up Usyk who is truly a resilient fighter, who else is there for Fury to fight that’s actually a threat? Fury could fight the next top 5 HW after Usyk, beat them all and retire. There is no one other than Usyk that can give a good account of themselves against Fury.

Fury will struggle badly against Joshua , Usyk , Joyce , .Hrgovic and Jared Anderson type fighter . In fact anyone who puts pressure on him in the ring with decent boxing makes him look bad like Wallin did , Furys going into the Usyk fight as a first time fighting a legit guy since Klitschko with no tune up fight beforehand.so let’s just see if he can this one .

This guys just a real big cry baby who cries about getting tune ups etc…he got his cherry pick Chisora fight he wanted and his team are crying now how long he has been out of the ring and how he wasn’t going to wait around for anyone so they secured a venue April 29th as though everyone who he could be fighting is an inconvenience to him ? Lol

[ELPacman]

I think it is fair for Usyk to say that. After all, he agreed for the massive split difference right out on camera to put Fury's back up against a wall. Now Fury had to except it. If he had request ANOTHER demand, it would be too obvious that he was ducking Usyk. Now if he pulls out of the fight with some kind of injury, you couldn't help but suspect it was because he knew he wasn't ready or worried of losing. At that point, Usyk should get his requests made considering he holds more belts.

I love Gypsy King's trash talk, but let's remember that someone good at talking, is also good at talking ****. Some of his assessments seem very fair and accurate... when they're not related to himself.

[PRINCEKOOL]

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I hear your points. They make sense. If the fight happens and Fury beats up Usyk who is truly a resilient fighter, who else is there for Fury to fight that’s actually a threat? Fury could fight the next top 5 HW after Usyk, beat them all and retire. There is no one other than Usyk that can give a good account of themselves against Fury.

You are speaking about Fury, as if he has achieved 10 + World title defenses 'Fury has fought in a total of 6 World Championship fights, and he has achieved 3 World title defenses'.

Most the points you are making about Fury's ability is extremely subjective.

You do not get credit for beating fighters you have not fought 'Fury even beyond Usyk has competition'.

Fury has already stated that he regards Joe Joyce as a tougher challenge stylistically in comparison to Usyk 'Ultimately a Champion always has competition'.

If Fury does beat Usyk 'Fury can legitimately objectively claim, to be unequivocally the best Heavyweight in the world'.

Fury can also claim to be the best Heavyweight of this era 'Due to beating three premier Champions'.

But even if Fury achieves this level, that does not remove him still from fighting his nearest competition 'And the tenants that all great Champions have adhered to throughout History'.

Beyond Usyk, fighting Anthony Joshua is most likely historically the only other fight Fury is obligated to make.

Anthony Joshua has been a premier fighter and Champion within this Heavyweight era etc.

[786]

I doubt this will take place in April and I doubt it's the next fight for either fighter. It's rare that these publicly negotiated fights take place, the fact they're being negotiated publicly usually tells me that both sides know it's not happening and are now trying to make it seem like the other team are to blame, to save face or get the public on side when the backlash comes once it's announced that it's not happening.

I hope I'm wrong but April 29th seems too soon for this fight to still not be signed.

[_Rexy_]

Completely agree and who is this tub of lard Klimas anyway?

Klimas has an incredible stable/eye for talent. He's basically the Lithuanian J Prince.

[War Room]

Klimas has an incredible stable/eye for talent. He's basically the Lithuanian J Prince.

That may be true, but he's been extremely cringe in media I've seen recently. I saw a video on Twitter where he talked about that 60/40 deal and winner get's 60...just really bad and uncomfortable. Saw another video, more awkward weirdo.

[_Rexy_]

That may be true, but he's been extremely cringe in media I've seen recently. I saw a video on Twitter where he talked about that 60/40 deal and winner get's 60...just really bad and uncomfortable. Saw another video, more awkward weirdo.

Yeah, he's responsible for Loma, Usyk, Mean Machine, Janibek, Gvozdyk, Kovalev, etc.

He's got a fantastic story too. Came to America with like $20 in his pocket as a teenager and started as a crab fisherman or some ****. Basically the opposite of Eddie Hearn.

[Oregonian]

You are speaking about Fury, as if he has achieved 10 + World title defenses 'Fury has fought in a total of 6 World Championship fights, and he has achieved 3 World title defenses'.

Most the points you are making about Fury's ability is extremely subjective.

You do not get credit for beating fighters you have not fought 'Fury even beyond Usyk has competition'.

Fury has already stated that he regards Joe Joyce as a tougher challenge stylistically in comparison to Usyk 'Ultimately a Champion always has competition'.

If Fury does beat Usyk 'Fury can legitimately objectively claim, to be unequivocally the best Heavyweight in the world'.

Fury can also claim to be the best Heavyweight of this era 'Due to beating three premier Champions'.

But even if Fury achieves this level, that does not remove him still from fighting his nearest competition 'And the tenants that all great Champions have adhered to throughout History'.

Beyond Usyk, fighting Anthony Joshua is most likely historically the only other fight Fury is obligated to make.

Anthony Joshua has been a premier fighter and Champion within this Heavyweight era etc.

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I don’t get a sense that you are disagreeing with me. I can only hope that Fury fights at least 10 more times after Usyk. Fury is still young for a HW and is just too big and surprisingly quicker than most HWs