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  • IronDanHamza
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    #31
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Well, I’m sorry to have to disagree with you but I find Canelo’s explanation FAR more believable.

    But if Benn can prove that he imported the eggs…and breaks down his exact diet where he was eating 34 eggs per week…and if he actually blames the tainted eggs for his positive test? Then I’ll come back to this thread and say you were right and I was wrong, both scenarios are equally plausible.
    Yeah, you just have no idea as to how the burden of proof works, do you?

    Whether you find it more believable or not is totally irrelevant. Your feelings on the matter are irrelevant.

    What is relevant is the demonstrable evidence. What are the facts?

    The facts are Canelo made a claim that he ate meat that was contaminated with Clen, the WBC Clean boxing program concluded that was the case, what demonstrable evidence do we have that supports that claim? Absolutely nothing what so ever. We have literally not a single shred of evidence to support that claim. To you that equates to a plausible excuse. I'm sorry, but that is by definition, objectively NOT plausible.

    What are the facts for Benn's case?

    The WBC clean boxing program have concluded that Benn's trace amounts of Clomid in his system were due to consumption of eggs, what demonstrable evidence do we have that supports that claim? Absolutely nothing what so ever. We have literally not a single shred of evidence to support that claim. To you that doesn't equate to a plausible excuse.


    Why not? You consider it plausible for Canelo when there is literally the exact same amount of evidence for both (Zero). The objective fact of the matter is neither one has plausible excuse

    Your hypocrisy is apparent and it's not the first time.
    Last edited by IronDanHamza; 03-04-2023, 07:24 PM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      Yeah, you just have no idea as to how the burden of proof works, do you?

      Whether you find it more believable or not is totally irrelevant. Your feelings on the matter are irrelevant.

      What is relevant is the demonstrable evidence. What are the facts?

      The facts are Canelo made a claim that he ate meat that was contaminated with Clen, the WBC Clean boxing program concluded that was the case, what demonstrable evidence do we have that supports that claim? Absolutely nothing what so ever. We have literally not a single shred of evidence to support that claim. To you that equates to a plausible excuse. I'm sorry, but that is by definition, objectively NOT plausible.

      What are the facts for Benn's case?

      The WBC clean boxing program have concluded that Benn's trace amounts of Clomid in his system were due to consumption of eggs, what demonstrable evidence do we have that supports that claim? Absolutely nothing what so ever. We have literally not a single shred of evidence to support that claim. To you that doesn't equate to a plausible excuse.


      Why not? You consider it plausible for Canelo when there is literally the exact same amount of evidence for both (Zero). The objective fact of the matter is neither one has plausible excuse

      Your hypocrisy is apparent and it's not the first time.
      No, Dan.

      1. Clenbuterol is widely used in Mexico. Clomiphene isn’t allowed for egg production on British soil.

      2. Canelo actually put forth the names of 8 restaurants he had eaten at while in Mexico. Conor Benn hasn’t put forth the name of where he imported eggs from onto British soil (nor has he even made the claim that he imported eggs.)

      Just based on those two facts alone Benn’s explanation is less likely to be true.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #33
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        No, Dan.

        1. Clenbuterol is widely used in Mexico. Clomiphene isn’t allowed for egg production on British soil.

        2. Canelo actually put forth the names of 8 restaurants he had eaten at while in Mexico. Conor Benn hasn’t put forth the name of where he imported eggs from onto British soil (nor has he even made the claim that he imported eggs.)

        Just based on those two facts alone Benn’s explanation is less likely to be true.
        Ok, and how do you know Benn doesn't get his eggs imported? You don't.

        Ok, and did they investigate those restaurants? No.

        Did they test any of the meat in those restaurants? No.

        Did they test the actual meat that he specifically ate? No.

        Do we have any evidence that Canelo even ate meat from those restaurants? No.

        Do we have any evidence that Canelo ate any kind of meat at all in Mexico? No.

        You seem to have this idea in your head that "making claims" has some kind of plausible meaning. It doesn't. That's not how evidence works. If you make a claim the burden of proof is entirely on said person making the claim to prove.

        It doesn't matter if Benn claimed it or not, the WBC have concluded it just like they did with Canelo's tainted meat excuse. Nor does it matter if Clen is used in Mexico. That claim doesn't then magically prove Canelo ate meat with Clen in it.

        The point that you're not seeming to grasp is neither have any validity in them at all.

        Yet, you deem one plausible and the other not when the objective fact of the matter is neither have any evidence what so ever for being in any way true.

        You are not consistent in your arguments. If you're going to excuse one you have to excuse the other when they both have the exact same amount of demonstrable evidence.

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          #34
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza

          Ok, and how do you know Benn doesn't get his eggs imported? You don't.

          Ok, and did they investigate those restaurants? No.

          Did they test any of the meat in those restaurants? No.

          Did they test the actual meat that he specifically ate? No.

          Do we have any evidence that Canelo even ate meat from those restaurants? No.

          Do we have any evidence that Canelo ate any kind of meat at all in Mexico? No.

          You seem to have this idea in your head that "making claims" has some kind of plausible meaning. It doesn't. That's not how evidence works. If you make a claim the burden of proof is entirely on said person making the claim to prove.

          It doesn't matter if Benn claimed it or not, the WBC have concluded it just like they did with Canelo's tainted meat excuse. Nor does it matter if Clen is used in Mexico. That claim doesn't then magically prove Canelo ate meat with Clen in it.

          The point that you're not seeming to grasp is neither have any validity in them at all.

          Yet, you deem one plausible and the other not when the objective fact of the matter is neither have any evidence what so ever for being in any way true.

          You are not consistent in your arguments. If you're going to excuse one you have to excuse the other when they both have the exact same amount of demonstrable evidence.
          Canelo was seen at Sonora Grill with Bill Clinton. We know for a fact he ate at a restaurant in Mexico prior to the tests.

          Basically, one claim has more evidence to support it than the other.

          Hence that claim is more plausible. Its not hard to understand at all.

          We’ve gotten to the point that to even believe Benn’s excuse we have to believe that he imported eggs. How plausible is that?
          Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 03-04-2023, 09:10 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            One claim has more evidence to support it than the other.

            Hence that claim is more plausible. Its not hard to understand at all.

            We’ve gotten to the point that to even believe Benn’s excuse we have to believe that he imported eggs. How plausible is that?
            No actually, it really doesn't.

            Do you actually understand what evidence is? I really don't think that you do.

            Both claims have ZERO evidence. Not even .1% of any kind of evidence. I'm not sure how to make that easier for you to understand. There is absolutely NO evidence what so ever that Canelo ate meat that was contaminated with Clenbutrol. Which part of that are you not understanding?

            Benn's excuse isn't plausible. It isn't even remotely close to plausible.

            Guess what? Neither is Canelo's.

            Hence....Your hypocrisy.
            Last edited by IronDanHamza; 03-04-2023, 11:02 PM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by EnglishOxide

              Floyd was the most hated guy in boxing, and also the richest.

              Sounds like a smart move.
              Floyd had grandmaster talent, Eggs Bennedict is a fledging tail rider.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #37
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                Canelo was seen at Sonora Grill with Bill Clinton. We know for a fact he ate at a restaurant in Mexico prior to the tests.
                #1 That isn't evidence that he'd eaten meat that was contaminated with Clenbutrol.

                #2 We don't even know whether he ate meat while he was there or not.

                I think you might want to refer to an online dictionary. You literally have no idea what the concept of evidence is.

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                • paulf
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                  #38
                  What a pitiful state we're in in 2023.

                  You can catch a man on film having an orgy and he'll go on TV and say he's a ****** with a straight face.

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                    #39
                    Benn is looking to cash in at the expense of boxing and anyone behind or with this farce should be ashamed.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Corelone
                      Honestly, if a Mexican guy fought like Floyd, they'd laugh him out of the country.
                      What’s that got to do with this thread?

                      Besides, Floyd made a millions off schooling Mexicans on Mexican holidays

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