Is Cotto a better fighter than JMM pound for pound?

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  • Ch@mpBox@PR
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    #61
    Originally posted by BMWM3P
    I've been asking idiot bully the same thing he just keeps ignoring the question.
    Dont even bother with him, he just hates Cotto for the hell of it!!!

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    • F-22 Raptor
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      #62
      Originally posted by street bully
      Its a P4P debate, and WW Cotto would probably beat JMM, as I am sure Ali would destroy SRR at HW. If Cotto fought Pavlik at 160 he would get crushed. Cotto is the better fighter though. However P4P Marquez is a better fighter. Juan Diaz is a better fighter than margarito P4P and Marquez took his come forward style adjusted amd stopped him. Cotto took Margaritos style looked ok for 6 rounds, got beat down and quit.
      I understand that about hte Margarito fight, but everybody knows that there's a big * in that fight because Margarito could have possibly cheated, so I think it's unfair to make that fight count for him.

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      • WhoreUs
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        #63
        Originally posted by BMWM3P
        I guess when Cotto beats Pac, you will say that Pac was mediocre nothing special.
        1. i doubt he can beat pac.

        2. even if he does he just beat a natural featherweight.



        either way. cotto gets no credit.

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        • The Surgeon
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          #64
          Originally posted by Zarco
          Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao:

          - Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
          - Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
          - Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
          - Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
          - Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
          - Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
          - Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
          - Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
          - Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
          - Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
          - Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
          - Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
          - Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
          - DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
          - Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
          - Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
          - Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
          - Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
          - Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
          - Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
          - Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
          - William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
          - Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
          - Bert Sugar:Marquez
          - Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
          - Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
          - Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
          - Graham Houston, FightWriter.com also picked Marquez
          As it goes so did i. I was just making a point u have to respect the judges decisions and when the fights are as close as these there isnt much room for complaint

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          • Ch@mpBox@PR
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            #65
            Originally posted by Mr._Pink
            better resume? better wins? more skilled?

            talk to me when cotto ever wins anything.
            Simple uestion what win in JMMs Resume is better than Mosley, hell even better than Clottey?

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            • street bully
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              #66
              Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
              Jab - Cotto
              Body Punching - Cotto
              Counter Punchng - JMM
              Defense - Cotto NO
              Stamina - JMM
              Chin - Cotto No
              Foot Work - Even NO
              Speed - Cotto
              NO (You must be crazy here)
              Timming - Even No
              Stentgh - Cotto
              Power - Cotto NO, Jmm makes opponents take the 10 count.
              Combination Punching - Even No, **** no.
              Hooks - Cotto
              Uppercuts - JMM
              Straight Right - JMM
              Pressure - Cotto
              Leading - Cotto

              Resume Cotto.

              Again people has just over blown his 2 biggest wins wich are a draw and a L against Pacquaio!!!


              If they where the same size Cottto KHTFO!!!
              You sir need to see the doctor. You are so bias it isn't even funny anymore.

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              • oc9979
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                #67
                Originally posted by larry x
                no..jmm is a 5 time champ in 3 differant divisions...cotto is a 3 time vacant titlist
                What about the
                1. vacant WBO lightweight title, (Juan Diaz)
                2. vacant WBA Super World lightweight title, (Juan Diaz)
                3. vacant IBF featherweight title (Manuel Medina)

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                • street bully
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The Surgeon
                  As it goes so did i. I was just making a point u have to respect the judges decisions and when the fights are as close as these there isnt much room for complaint
                  No you don't man. If you think a fighter won without being bias at all, then you give it to him. Should we go by Whitaker vs Chavez decision?

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                  • fightingfigs
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Mr._Pink
                    yeah because cotto is so fleetfooted......

                    cotto is not on jmm's level. period.
                    Marquez is good and im a huge fan of his countering ability but shouldnt be considered at athe welterweight division anymore. Im not sure how he will fare at 140lbs. look at "big punching" Nate campbell. He was getting outspeeded and eaten up by Bradley.

                    Guys gotta keep P4P out of boxing for a lil. The last true P4P in my eyes was Duran. who fought all the way up to LHV and still knocked guys out. That is P4P status. Mayweather couldnt even KO a natural 135lb marquez so I dont consider him even close as well.

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                    • BMWM3P
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Mr._Pink
                      1. i doubt he can beat pac.

                      2. even if he does he just beat a natural featherweight.



                      either way. cotto gets no credit.
                      You know you'll be back on Cotto's balls as soon as he beats Pac.

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