Comments Thread For: Haney on Lomachenko: I Told Him a Long Time Ago Fight Me Now, Because It's Only Gonna Get Worse

[F l i c k e r]

Not seeing how it's going to be worse when the guy is gun shy at 24 years old and only throws 2 punches at most on any given combination.

Lomachenko simply has to not do what he did with Teofimo and will probably win. If he gets the timing on Haney's jab, that's a checkmate. It's all the bull throws, so once that is timed, the match is completely over. Decision Lomachenko.

[F l i c k e r]

I'm sure that Tank will have a lot to say about that. I like Shakur, but I don't think he beats Tank, and he hasn't even fought one fight in the division yet for you to say that he's going to win all the belts. Haney and his father have said that they will stay at 135 until the end of the year if the right fights are made.

He'll stay beyond the year with the way 140 is looking with Prograis and that Matias guy.

[R.I.P Chico]

Lomachenko is a blown up featherweight; Devin Haney is a welterweight fighting as a lightweight. When Haney's 36 he'll probably be fighting at 154+

[Smash]

Arum, who is extremely loyal to Loma and will make sure that he gets the fight and protects his best interests,

loma was the top dog, a side and guy with the belts going into the teo fight and one of the judges, julie lederman gave him one round and another had him losing wide & when loma questioned his treatment in what was a pretty close fight even going to last round, arum got ratty and said loma is losing his mind and loma publicly blamed arum for what he saw as terrible scorecards against him

Actually ive seen fights where people have been given draws out of that type of fight, so i think bob was more than willing to see loma out and onboard with the teo takeover and his new star but teo turned out to be a bit of a basketcase which is quite funny

[Monty Fisto]

loma was the top dog, a side and guy with the belts going into the teo fight and one of the judges, julie lederman gave him one round and another had him losing wide & when loma questioned his treatment in what was a pretty close fight even going to last round, arum got ratty and said loma is losing his mind and loma publicly blamed arum for what he saw as terrible scorecards against him

Actually ive seen fights where people have been given draws out of that type of fight, so i think bob was more than willing to see loma out and onboard with the teo takeover and his new star but teo turned out to be a bit of a basketcase which is quite funny

LOL. The basketcase bit does give me a bit of a chuckle.

[Rebelrbg]

loma was the top dog, a side and guy with the belts going into the teo fight and one of the judges, julie lederman gave him one round and another had him losing wide & when loma questioned his treatment in what was a pretty close fight even going to last round, arum got ratty and said loma is losing his mind and loma publicly blamed arum for what he saw as terrible scorecards against him

Actually ive seen fights where people have been given draws out of that type of fight, so i think bob was more than willing to see loma out and onboard with the teo takeover and his new star but teo turned out to be a bit of a basketcase which is quite funny

Arum saw the same fight everyone else saw, and didn't want the type of backlash that he would receive for questioning a fight that Loma clearly lost. Otherwise, Arum has always bent over backwards to make sure that Loma has everything required for his happiness. He publicly gushes over the guy, and basically held his hand into championship fights from his second professional fight on. Even after he lost the first championship fight, he put him right back in with another champion, no one else received that type of push and treatment, not even the greatest.

[Smash]

Arum saw the same fight everyone else saw, and didn't want the type of backlash that he would receive for questioning a fight that Loma clearly lost. Otherwise, Arum has always bent over backwards to make sure that Loma has everything required for his happiness. He publicly gushes over the guy, and basically held his hand into championship fights from his second professional fight on. Even after he lost the first championship fight, he put him right back in with another champion, no one else received that type of push and treatment, not even the greatest.

true but loma was ready for those big fights and bob wanted to make some cash so it was a good plan of action, most guys are built up really slowly and avoid hard fights for years and years

plus if bob really wanted loma to beat teo and continue on with loma the scorecards would never have been that wide against him, teo got the a side cards in that fight

and the fallout, loma basically called bob out online and bob responded with barbs against loma, bob does not like being critised, i would say their relationship is bad after that, id say loma cant stand him and maybe the other way around too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp4a4fh0Hn4

[messi807]

I think Loma would have beaten him then but now Haney has got better and Loma is on the slide and 36 next.birthday Loma is a small lightweight but Haney is huge at the weight but keeps his speed . I don't see how Haney can stay at light weight.

Doubt it. Loma had trouble with Linares 5 years ago, lost to Lopez 3 years ago and had some trouble with Luke Campbell 4 years ago. Haney is a level above all those guys in almost every department.

[messi807]

You guys have to understand that calling a fighter out is just one step in the process. The financials of the fight also has to make sense for the Promoter fronting the fight especially if there are no investor type money involved. That fight didn't happen then 'cos Arum saw no money in the fight and not becos Loma or ducking or any other narrative been pushed. Loma fights pretty much everybody and if anything, this would be the time to avoid as Haney would seem to have all the advantages now but that isn't in his DNA. Fact is there was an in-house fight (Loma v Lopez) that makes more sense and most would agree was a better fight and more marketable fight than Haney at that time.

I reckon Haney is a lot better and Loma is on the decline but I 'll be very careful been overconfident like Haney is doing 'cos it isn't like Loma has suddenly forgotten how to fight. A once great fighter always have that one special fight when they can put everything together and unlike Lopez, Haney doesn't have the power to keep Loma at bay like Lopez did and the one thing guys like Loma and Tank know how to do exceptionally well is close the distance once they properly assesses the incoming threat. Loma has fought styles like Haney but Haney hasn't fought styles like Loma. Unless Loma's legs are totally shot, this will be a truly interesting fight

I’ve heard this in almost every Floyd fight at 147 ‘he doesn’t have the power to keep so and so at bay’ just because he didn’t have a legit stoppage for 10 years. When you’re super accurate.. Power doesn’t mean much so I wouldn’t bank on that being a factor. How about we talk about speed, timing, one of the best jabs in boxing, height/weight advantage & defensive capabilities? All which Haney carries an advantage over Loma.
Power didn’t stop Haney from negating Kambosos and turning his face into a meat-grinder - in fact it wasn’t power that made Kambosos think twice about coming forward, it was accuracy and the fear of getting countered. Also, the Lopez fight definitely wasn’t ‘far’ more marketable. Lopez looked like sh..t against Nakhatani in a fight most thought was close. If you had a time-machine you’d go back and watch Haney-Loma instead. Teo has been a dud, lost to Kambosos in a huge upset & got dropped twice against Sandor Martin in a fight he should’ve lost. Teo was the easier option, no kind of revisionist history is changing that. Loma tried to avoid Haney and this is the consequence.

[BlackRobb]

I'm sure that Tank will have a lot to say about that. I like Shakur, but I don't think he beats Tank, and he hasn't even fought one fight in the division yet for you to say that he's going to win all the belts. Haney and his father have said that they will stay at 135 until the end of the year if the right fights are made.

Shakur will be one step ahead of Tank all night long. I think Haney-Tank is 50/50 at 135. Shakur is too skilled for both.