Comments Thread For: Canelo On Possible Bivol Sequel: "I Know I'm Gonna Beat Him In The Rematch"

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  • Cool story
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    #111
    Originally posted by Oregonian
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    You win the award for the most juvenile argument ever.
    Porter and Garcia both lost split decision fights to Thurman. They were still relevant at WW when Spence fought them. Brook was a belt holder and Spence traveled overseas for that. Same exact thing Crawford did by fighting Horn who lost to PAC.

    Khan and Brook were irrelevant at WW.

    Unlike you, I am not defending the Thurman fight.
    Crawford could fight Broner tomorrow and you would be here trying to defend your idol

    But we’ll wait to see who Crawford fights next.
    They all froze bud out
    porter didn’t want to fight but when he had a belt
    Danny Garcia didn’t want to fight Crawford when he had a belt
    Thurman didn’t want to fight bud either
    and Spence still not trying to fight bud

    Plus u acting like porter was damaged goods but he was coming off a win before he fought bud he didn’t have no eye injury or broken orbital
    bud was the first to stop porter
    Spence arguably lost to porter or could of been a draw

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      #112
      Originally posted by Rebelrbg

      Imaginary fabricated stories won't get Crawford out of fighting lesser competition, and running away from negotiations to fight AVANESYEN, a crash dummy, the kind of fights that Bud has an acquired taste for, no risk, big check. Spence has permission from the sanctioning bodies to fight the mandatory at 154 for one fight, and he's only doing 154 with Thurman because he refuses to give Keith a title shot. Meanwhile, Bud looking for Rocha or Broner, as he usually does, instead of Boots, who is available and willing. Shameful!!! And as his fan you continue to defend and support it. A damn shame I say!!!
      Dude all this guys at pbc could of fought Crawford a long time ago porter clearly did that means Spence can too but he won’t

      maybe it’s not Spence but his handler or trainer don’t believe in the Spence hype lol

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        #113
        Originally posted by Rebelrbg

        You might want to check the latest P4P lists, Spence is ranked higher than Crawford. They couldn't reward Bud for ducking and fighting sparring partners.
        I guess I depends cause on the sports illustrated one Crawford number 1
        on the other one they have canelo n usyk above Spence n Crawford

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          #114
          Crawford seems to throw chingasos and keeps winning

          gotta love a guy who loves fishing and beating up midgets

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            #115
            Originally posted by just the facts

            So how did you score the first fight?
            116-112 Bivol.

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              #116
              Originally posted by _Rexy_

              I don’t remember what I scored that, but I remember Oscar getting off to a fast start. He had to have won more than 2 rounds…
              Trust me, he didn’t. 10-2 or 9-3 being generous.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Cool story

                They all froze bud out
                porter didn’t want to fight but when he had a belt
                Danny Garcia didn’t want to fight Crawford when he had a belt
                Thurman didn’t want to fight bud either
                and Spence still not trying to fight bud

                Plus u acting like porter was damaged goods but he was coming off a win before he fought bud he didn’t have no eye injury or broken orbital
                bud was the first to stop porter
                Spence arguably lost to porter or could of been a draw
                ————
                All your points would make sense if Crawford did not fight Khan and Brook. There were better opponents out there than those two.

                But like I said, where does Crawford go now? He’s stated he will fight three times. Who else can he fight other than Ortiz, Boots and Spence?

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by buddyr
                  Trust me, he didn’t. 10-2 or 9-3 being generous.
                  I’ll take your word for it. I’ve only watched it once. I felt Sturm won, but I seem to recall it being like a 7-4 type deal.

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                    #119
                    This rematch will be a bigger fight than the first fight.

                    And I think it will be Alvarez's defining fight. And his best win if he beats Bivol.

                    The fight needs to be made at 175 pounds, for maximum prestige and value.

                    I still give Alvarez a serious chance of beating Bivol at 175 pounds.

                    The fight is all about endurance, and Alvarez being able to apply his superior inside game.

                    Bivol is a solid fighter all around, but I don't see any attributes that jump out at you 'Like Tommy Hearn's power, Roy Jones Junior's speed & athleticism, Joe Calzaghe's endurance and combination punch ability'.

                    Bivol is just like Usyk, good in most area's 'Which overall combines and in this era has made him a elite fighter'. The one area which I think Bivol has shown not much ability in is his inside game.

                    Alvarez does have a elite inside game and defense on the attack 'Extremely sophisticated'. These are the area's where I rate Alvarez as elite. In other area's he can drop below elite and even struggles to reach World level i.e Movement, Endurance, Lack of Gears, Alvarez's power is solid enough but he is no monster puncher.

                    I just think this challenge for Alvarez is apparent. Alvarez knows what area's he is a better fighter than Bivol in 'So he has to take the fight into this realm'. And this can only be achieved through a specific training camp, highly focused on building up his endurance 'Complete obsession about his inside game application'.

                    It may be a fight where Alvarez racks up points early in the fight, than has to hang on in the latter rounds.
                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-16-2023, 09:56 AM.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by buddyr

                      and you think Vegas is above doing that? Go and look at Sturm vs DLH when hte scores should have een 10-2 but they gave it to DLH because they know they'd lose money on a Sturm vs Hopkins fight. Boxing has been and always will be corrupt.
                      Sadly not

                      If Canelo did slightly better in the last match, but still comprehensively los, they would’ve at least give him a draw. They tried their best.

                      When Canelo loses 7-5 on the scorecards, you know he won about 2 rounds really…

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