Comments Thread For: Usyk Promoter 'Really Optimistic' Fury Fight Gets Made, Adamant on 50/50 Split

[Combat Talk Radio]

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In the context of achievement, you are absolutely right, but this is about popularity.

Let me try a different hypocritical example, let’s say Bud and Spence fought a year ago and one of them became the unified champion. If Floyd was to unretire and challenge the unified champion, Floyd would never agree to a 50/50 split even though the unified champion deserves it.

Even better example, do you think Canelo would accept a 50/50 deal with Bivol in the rematch? Bivol is the champ and already beat Canelo so it should be a 50/50 split but Bivol, like Usyk does not bring in the money.

I don't think popularity can apply here, for one reason:

If we're going by American popularity, all Fury can bank on is his WWE appearance and hyping Tommy Fury's eventual funeral. Nobody else in the US cares.

Both guys are quite known overseas. Arguably, Usyk has more intrigue behind him as the silent, skilled guy. A perfect antagonist to loud, annoying Fury. Plus Usyk will be a babyface if they sell it on him participating in the war. He will have the sympathy.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Fury is a great fighter, but totally unpredictable. He will probably drop WBC belt and fight Ngannou.

He does what he wants.

[harry-greb]

Didn't they agree to 50/50 for the middle East? What's changed? Just get in the ring

[super-x]

Usyk has earned his right to request and stay adamant of 50/50, rematch split 60/40 in favour of winner. Usyk can still have a massive showdown with Wilder if Fury doesn't accept.

[Monty Fisto]

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Joshua is just as big a name as Fury is hence the 50/50 agreement.
How much do you think Usyk would make if he were to fight Whyte or Ruiz? I doubt he makes $5 million.
Fury will make $30 million fighting anyone including Forrest Gump.
I like Usyk and I hope he gets paid good money but 50/50 is not happening unless of course Fury decides to be generous

At the time they agreed 50/50, Joshua was a much bigger box office draw than Fury, but they decided nothing was fairer than 50/50. Fury is a bigger box office draw than Usyk. But Usyk holds three belts, is willing to travel to fight in Fury's home country, and Fury claims he is a fighting man.

[deathofaclown]

Didn't they agree to 50/50 for the middle East? What's changed? Just get in the ring

They didn’t.

they were negotiating separate contracts with the Saudis, rather than one contract with a split. Kind of strange but apparently not uncommon there.

But now the fight has moved to England, and Fury is a much bigger draw there than Usyk, so his team feel that 50/50 isn’t justified. In theory they’re probably right, its commercial value that brings money in, but it’s hard to imagine the fight being made if the split isn’t near 50/50.

The reality is Fury can sell out Wembley stadium and sell PPV’s fighting Joe Joyce, Francis Ngannou, Wilder etc, and doesn’t need to give them close to 50%. Usyk can’t get this kind of money elsewhere right now. If he doesn’t fight Fury, he’ll have to fight someone like Hrgovic for a tiny fraction of the money he would get to fight Fury.

Fury and his team understand this, and so do Usyk’s team, so that’s why Fury feels he has leverage to get a bigger split.

It’s annoying for us fans. But that’s business, people don’t give away bigger percentages than necessary if they can avoid it. Neither would you it was your money you’re investing in the event

This is the art of negotiation. I’d prefer to see 50/50 and them get in the ring. But if this fight gets made, it’ll probably because Usyk’s team have to accept they will make far more with a 40% split fighting Fury than they will with an 80% split v Hrgovic or someone

Right or wrong, that’s the reality.

[Oregonian]

I don't think popularity can apply here, for one reason:

If we're going by American popularity, all Fury can bank on is his WWE appearance and hyping Tommy Fury's eventual funeral. Nobody else in the US cares.

Both guys are quite known overseas. Arguably, Usyk has more intrigue behind him as the silent, skilled guy. A perfect antagonist to loud, annoying Fury. Plus Usyk will be a babyface if they sell it on him participating in the war. He will have the sympathy.

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Your points are compelling but they aren’t applicable.
Let’s say the fight doesn’t happen and Usyk fights Joyce or Wilder or Ruiz, do you think he’d make the same money as Fury fighting the same exact guys?

[Oregonian]

At the time they agreed 50/50, Joshua was a much bigger box office draw than Fury, but they decided nothing was fairer than 50/50. Fury is a bigger box office draw than Usyk. But Usyk holds three belts, is willing to travel to fight in Fury's home country, and Fury claims he is a fighting man.

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Bivol holds a belt at LHW, is willing to fight Canelo in Mexico, Will Canelo agree to a 50/50 split?
Fury vs Usyk isn’t a Crawford vs Spence scenario. Fury is a global superstar and fights sell because of him.
His last fight sold 90,000+ tickets in less than three days. Can Usyk bring in that massive crowd?

[Monty Fisto]

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Bivol holds a belt at LHW, is willing to fight Canelo in Mexico, Will Canelo agree to a 50/50 split?
Fury vs Usyk isn’t a Crawford vs Spence scenario. Fury is a global superstar and fights sell because of him.
His last fight sold 90,000+ tickets in less than three days. Can Usyk bring in that massive crowd?

What a ridiculous anology. Bivol holds a belt at LHW. If Canelo wanted the rematch in Mexico (while also being unable to fight in the US because of his connections to a gangster), then I think he would have to concede his usual generous % in order to persuade Bivol to come to his home country and risk being robbed.

Fury selling 90,000 tickets for a fight at the 60,000 capacity Tottenham Hotspur Stadium was quite the trick. That says everything you need to know about the 'facts' with which you are making your argument.

[juggernaut666]

They didn’t.

they were negotiating separate contracts with the Saudis, rather than one contract with a split. Kind of strange but apparently not uncommon there.

But now the fight has moved to England, and Fury is a much bigger draw there than Usyk, so his team feel that 50/50 isn’t justified. In theory they’re probably right, its commercial value that brings money in, but it’s hard to imagine the fight being made if the split isn’t near 50/50.

The reality is Fury can sell out Wembley stadium and sell PPV’s fighting Joe Joyce, Francis Ngannou, Wilder etc, and doesn’t need to give them close to 50%. Usyk can’t get this kind of money elsewhere right now. If he doesn’t fight Fury, he’ll have to fight someone like Hrgovic for a tiny fraction of the money he would get to fight Fury.

Fury and his team understand this, and so do Usyk’s team, so that’s why Fury feels he has leverage to get a bigger split.

It’s annoying for us fans. But that’s business, people don’t give away bigger percentages than necessary if they can avoid it. Neither would you it was your money you’re investing in the event

This is the art of negotiation. I’d prefer to see 50/50 and them get in the ring. But if this fight gets made, it’ll probably because Usyk’s team have to accept they will make far more with a 40% split fighting Fury than they will with an 80% split v Hrgovic or someone

Right or wrong, that’s the reality.

The reality is both Warren and Arum said it’s a 50/50 split fight . One would assume it didn’t matter where this fight takes place and we know who’s holding it up now .

“The purse split. Is it 70-30, 60-40? This one is going to be 50-50 , Bob Arum . He said that is a given”
Tyson Fury has instructed Frank Warren to make undisputed title fight vs Oleksandr Usyk with 50/50 purse split already agreed in negotiations BEFORE Ukrainian's rematch with Anthony Joshua... all that's left to do is pick one of the lucrative site offers .



Fury got 50% against Wilder with no belts fighting in the U.S , if this fight doesn’t get made it’s over for Fury ,even his most demented fans on here will throw in the towel because they know it’ll be the second guy he ran from in an undisputed fight . Lol