Comments Thread For: Canelo To Take Pay Cut By Facing Ryder in Mexico, Says Hearn

[Boricua181]

By the way, I just want to see the best fights, and don't align myself with a promotional company, I have my favorite fighters, and I want them to face the best, but I understand that they have to make the best decisions for longevity as far as being able to move appropriately, if Jermall would have accepted that, he would have had to disconnect himself from Haymon, the only one that he trusts.

Right now Jermall is disconnected from everything, he hasn't fought in 18 month's, and doesn't have a fight scheduled for the near future.
He's had legal problem's due to assaulting a family member, and incident's at a restaurant, and a club, to top it off his wife called him a dead beat on social media.
I watched the the Charlo's because they are skilled fighter's, Andrade not so much, here's the thing there is something seriously wrong in Jermall's world.
I don't know if it's a psychological issue, but it sure look's like that's the case, and if it is we may never see Jermall in the ring again.

[Boricua181]

Maybe but no-one really knows how Morrell would get on against Ryder. Everyone thought Callum Smith would knock him out and he didn’t get close to doing it. Smith hits harder than Morrell too. Canelo’s still got enough I expect for the next few fights. Bivol didn’t hurt him and GGG is still a rock who would still be the biggest challenge for every other MW and SMW out there.

No one knows how Morrell's career will end up, but the guy has destroyed the few fighters that he has faced.
Ryder did beat Smith, and most fan's expected Smith to knock him out, but styles make fight's, and Ryder's style of come forward, and throw punches is to basic.
It's actually the easiest type of fighter to beat, if your a really good boxer with a sturdy chin, I think that Bivol, Morrell, Canelo, GGG, and quite a few others beat him.
That said he's done very well for himself, especially as of late, so I see him trying to put up as competitive of a fight as he can, but it simply won't be enough.

[Boricua181]

I'll give you the reason, but others, the underwear washers, like to overlook. PBC sent Andrade a contract to fight Jermall, but Hearn tried to get around Haymon to have the fight on DAZN an publicly offered a contract to Charlo for 7 million for the fight on DAZN, to see if Jermall would be willing to dismiss his relationship with Haymon and PBC for the money. Jermall didn't do it and was accused of ducking. He should be applauded rather than disrespected for his loyalty, but it doesn't fit the narrative of the anti-Haymon and PBC collective. Eddie just tried to do the same thing with Tank, but Tank exposed him. But, of course, its all Haymon hate instead of recognition of Charlo being the bigger name and having the bigger fanbase over Andrade, so of course, the network would have to be Showtime, but the business doesn't matter when they have a chance to show disdain for a fighter that is loyal to his advisor and relationship with his business partners.

Honestly the boxing organization's, and the Promotional companies, create more problem's than they resolve for the world of boxing, and the boxer's usually get the short end of the stick.

[Jab jab boom]

Maybe so, but being that he has been a free agent for the better half of those past 5 years like you mentioned… wouldn’t you think they’d figure it out after one maybe two fights? I think he makes what he pulls in… it’s common sense. Anywho, who gives a damn long as he makes it while fighting the fights Fans want to see him fight… the money is irrelevant to me in reality

You’re right, the money should be irrelevant to us as fans if boxers are making the fights us fans want to see, but where we’ll disagree is I don’t think he’s consistently making the fights most fans want to see. I feel he left 160 without making fights fans wanted to see with charlo and Andrade, at 168 he hasn’t faced the guy I feel would be the biggest threat in Benavidez, I didn’t want to see him face a 40 yr old ggg and definitely don’t want to see him face Ryder. Now you can say what you want about those other guys not fighting anyone or anything about how their careers have gone, but the truth remains that many fans wanted to see those fights more than fights with guys like fielding, Yidilgrim, Ryder or even any of the champions he faced at 168.

[tkoboxingscene]

That’s unfair. You know the Benavides fight is being positioned to be a huge event. You okay for Canelo to fight a guy like Ryder coming off a surgery. Also, everyone else gets soft touches all the time. The one time Canelo does it, he’s ducking. Gtfo

What's unfair is the dumb bias **** you just spewed here. Spence came back from the dead to fight the best available opponents, and you're here ragging about a little surgery. Gtfoh with that dumb ****. You fangirls would rather see boxing in the dumps where it is just to defend your boyfriends. It's disgusting

[eco1]

Eco1



Is he sure to have a win in the Bivol rematch?

Hell NO! Move along ******...

When did the Bivol rematch take place u imbecile?
He lost 10 rounds and almost got a draw in the first fight, he is sure he has the judges on his side.

He also has some nut lickers on this site.

I truly don't like men who are in love with other men, like you Clenelo fans do.

[Robi13]

You’re right, the money should be irrelevant to us as fans if boxers are making the fights us fans want to see, but where we’ll disagree is I don’t think he’s consistently making the fights most fans want to see. I feel he left 160 without making fights fans wanted to see with charlo and Andrade, at 168 he hasn’t faced the guy I feel would be the biggest threat in Benavidez, I didn’t want to see him face a 40 yr old ggg and definitely don’t want to see him face Ryder. Now you can say what you want about those other guys not fighting anyone or anything about how their careers have gone, but the truth remains that many fans wanted to see those fights more than fights with guys like fielding, Yidilgrim, Ryder or even any of the champions he faced at 168.

I can’t disagree with you because you’re being factual. However, he ain’t done yet, and wanting the rematch with Bivol is literally proving he is not scared of the benavidez or Charlos or Andrades of the world. He has time and those fights may come to fruition and even though he has yet to face those guys, I will touch on the fact that those guys have not done much if anything to help their cause either. We saying the same thing differently. But we both know, so who do we lay the burden on? We can agree to disagree, but one thing is for sure, he owns the best active resume, and also add to that, the fact that you can literally and I mean LITERALLY dissect ANY boxer that ever existeds resume too… amirite? So, the man has the best resume of all active boxers in todays era… you nitpick at his choice of opposition is just stating that you Can nitpick at anyone else’s yet you chose to nitpick his time and time again. You have your reasons I could care less but it’s all facts my guy. Let the man finish off his career and if he fights those fights guess what, there will always be another guy he didn’t fight right? It’s pointless brotha

[chepboxingking]

What's unfair is the dumb bias **** you just spewed here. Spence came back from the dead to fight the best available opponents, and you're here ragging about a little surgery. Gtfoh with that dumb ****. You fangirls would rather see boxing in the dumps where it is just to defend your boyfriends. It's disgusting

Bruh, you the only fan girl here. Since you keep mentioning Spence, how long as Boots and Virgil been his mandatories? Fighting big names doesn’t mean he’s fighting the best out. I have no issue with Spence doing this, but if we gonna hold Canelo accountable, let’s do it for all.

[tkoboxingscene]

Bruh, you the only fan girl here. Since you keep mentioning Spence, how long as Boots and Virgil been his mandatories? Fighting big names doesn’t mean he’s fighting the best out. I have no issue with Spence doing this, but if we gonna hold Canelo accountable, let’s do it for all.

Ortiz has never been Spence's mandatory, he is Terrence Crawford's mandatory, and he hasn't been in a hurry to enforce his position, just like all the golden girls protection program members like munguia and garcia. Boots just made his move to be mandatory, the only things Spence is holding out for is undisputed - which crawford os blocking him from doing. Canelo is ducking Benavidez to fight a b-grade guy who doesn't even generate enough hype tp justify him ducking Benavidez. You cant even compare the two situations. You're just too dumb to make the distinction

[Jab jab boom]

I can’t disagree with you because you’re being factual. However, he ain’t done yet, and wanting the rematch with Bivol is literally proving he is not scared of the benavidez or Charlos or Andrades of the world. He has time and those fights may come to fruition and even though he has yet to face those guys, I will touch on the fact that those guys have not done much if anything to help their cause either. We saying the same thing differently. But we both know, so who do we lay the burden on? We can agree to disagree, but one thing is for sure, he owns the best active resume, and also add to that, the fact that you can literally and I mean LITERALLY dissect ANY boxer that ever existeds resume too… amirite? So, the man has the best resume of all active boxers in todays era… you nitpick at his choice of opposition is just stating that you Can nitpick at anyone else’s yet you chose to nitpick his time and time again. You have your reasons I could care less but it’s all facts my guy. Let the man finish off his career and if he fights those fights guess what, there will always be another guy he didn’t fight right? It’s pointless brotha

I don’t think he’s “scared” of those guys, I do think he (or at least Reynoso) assessed risk and decided that the risk with them wasn’t worth the reward and saw less risk with guys like smith, Saunders, Yidilgrim, plant and now Ryder. A fight with Benavidez may happen because it’s really the only legit option at 168 and really hope he doesn’t get pushed behind for a charlo or Andrade at this point because the time to make those fights was when they were all at 160. I don’t care much about seeing those fights at this time because those guys haven’t done much since and are in their 30’s with no meaningful wins. Benavidez is in his 20’s and at least is trying to make fights that matter. Charlo and Andrade can go and fight each other.