Comments Thread For: Canelo To Take Pay Cut By Facing Ryder in Mexico, Says Hearn

[TheIronMike]

He'll be getting paid in pesos and paying his tax to the cartels so naturally it makes sense.

[Verus]

God you are thick. Canelo will generate millions of dollars fighting a janitor, that is not the point you muppet.

You prove my point!

[Verus]

He ducks anyone unless he is sure he will have a win. Clenelo is nothing but a B+ fighter who has been well managed and well paired all of his career.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

[eco1]

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

Clenelo, you are welcome

[A_State501]

I guess you didn't get the memo. Canelo is undisputed and Ryder is the first mandatory. Here is the thing, if Alvarez, fights an undefeated champion at a higher weight the knuckle draggers will say he is ducking his mandatory. If he fights his mandatory then these same folks will say he is ducking fighter X, Y, or Z. The real entertainment is in watching this cycle repeat itself and the knuckle draggers take personal offense and get all exorcised about it.

Why do belts only matter when it comes to Canela? He's the face of boxing says his loyalist so he doesn't need a belt. Bivol, Benavidez, or the guy he vacated the WBC title @ 160 to AVOID.

[Rebelrbg]

This definitely happened, and I was surprised when Jermell was honest enough to call out his brother on it.
Imagine just how angry he must've been at the way Jermall was avoiding certain fight's that his own brother thought he should be accepting.

You see how misappropriation and distraction works, this was about Cinnabon not facing Jermall, Benavidez, or any of the other deserving champions and contenders that the boxing public were clamoring for, and just that easy, the target gets deflected to Jermall not facing Andrade, who had already ducked and vacated his belt instead of facing Jermell at 154. Don't let these Cinnabon underwear washers get you off of the point.

But in answer to your question, Jermall didn't want to be the reason that Andrade got back his popularity after being publicly lambasted for ducking Jermell and taking a 2 years hiatus. It was something like Spence refusing to fight Thurman, but as we see, time can change opportunities and I'm sure he would fight him now because of the bad publicity that he receives for his inactivity. That still doesn't erase the fact that Cinnabon clearly ducked Jermall when he was his mandatory.

[Boricua181]

You see how misappropriation and distraction works, this was about Cinnabon not facing Jermall, Benavidez, or any of the other deserving champions and contenders that the boxing public were clamoring for, and just that easy, the target gets deflected to Jermall not facing Andrade, who had already ducked and vacated his belt instead of facing Jermell at 154. Don't let these Cinnabon underwear washers get you off of the point.

But in answer to your question, Jermall didn't want to be the reason that Andrade got back his popularity after being publicly lambasted for ducking Jermell and taking a 2 years hiatus. It was something like Spence refusing to fight Thurman, but as we see, time can change opportunities and I'm sure he would fight him now because of the bad publicity that he receives for his inactivity. That still doesn't erase the fact that Cinnabon clearly ducked Jermall when he was his mandatory.

Those are all fact's, and I actually got pissed off when Andrade decided to not go through with the fight, against Jermell.
But as we know life to be, it is full of distraction's, misrepresentation, lies, fraud, and the list goes on, and on.
That said Canelo has ducked Jermall, Andrade, Benavidez, and can't think of any others off the top of my head if there are any.
But simply stated Jermell did put his brother on blast, and was confirming the I remember reading it, and hearing say it on video.
I don't know what the reason was for for Jermall turning down a fight with Andrade, but the reason stated isn't good enough.
So Jermall Should be just as lambasted for turning down a fight, as Andrade was, that's the way I see it, I agree with Jermell who's ducked no one.

[Jab jab boom]

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Don’t his PPV numbers and gate attendance make a boatload to justify his paychecks?
I mean isn’t that how actors make their massive paycheck too? As long as they bring in the money, the checks will come too

He hasn’t sold over a mil Ppv’s in 5 yrs and most of them have been in the 4-500k range. Making between 30 to 40 mil guaranteed is overpaying him.

[Jab jab boom]

No one gets over laid for 5 years bro, he was obviously making everyone money so they kept paying him those high purses. Just because you think it’s high don’t make it factual. It’s a business and at that level the suits and ties won’t keep losing money on ANYONE don’t matter if it’s canelo or whoever it is for no damn 5 years! He got what he was bringing in brotha… respect the legend

Dazn has lost significant money over the past several yrs which is on record and public knowledge, they completely walked back their Ppv is dead stance right to try and make some money back because subscription buys weren’t cutting it, and even then, they don’t release Canelo’s US buy rates. It’s pretty obvious that they aren’t making the kind of money they expected with him.

[Verus]

Why do belts only matter when it comes to Canela? He's the face of boxing says his loyalist so he doesn't need a belt. Bivol, Benavidez, or the guy he vacated the WBC title @ 160 to AVOID.

In my humble opinion, Canelo Alvarez has several goals in mind and they vary in importance according to the situation. The most important of these goals are money and legacy. These are interrelated in that legacy fights influence market power. He has ditched belts in the past but being undisputed at 168 lbs was historical in that it was a first in that nobody had captured all the belts in the 4-belt era. Secondly, he is the first Mexican to win championship belts in 4 different weight classes. Some here point out that De La Hoya has won in 6 weight classes, but De La Hoya is not Mexican. Your first sentence implies that weights don't matter to other boxers. I don't think you intended to say that. I am not sure what your point about Bivol and Benavidez is. As everyone knows, Canelo moved up in weight and lost to Bivol. Incidentally, I predicted Bivol by 8 rounds to 4 and scored the fight, Bivol 8-3.

Look, guys who fight at the elite level are not "scared" of each other. These are not schoolyard kids, but they do have to factor in risk vs reward at every turn. The livelihood of their promoters, teams, and others depend on it -- not to mention the livelihood of their own families. As for monikers, like the "face of boxing" and "pound for pound" and the like is just opinion and mostly nonsense. It changes the focus from the sport itself to silly stuff that matters not.