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Originally posted by thack View Post
Remember Hearn dropped a major bollock here , bringing up and signing up Usyk from the cruiserweights, as undisputed he would get a straight crack at the Heavyweight title (which I thought ridiculous...having never proved his heavyweight worth) The heat was on for Joshua to fight a decent guy and Hearn thought Joshua would simply be too big and be able to do what we find now he couldn't . I'm not sure Joshua will ever be good enough to implement the type of aggressive style to be affective without getting tagged by Usyk a faster more skilled fighter. I think Fury will show how to beat Usyk.
Like you said, as undisputed Cruiserweight champ, he had the right to a mandatory shot at AJ's WBO Heavyweight title and he would have demanded that shot whether Hearn signed him or not.
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Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post2 years ago I would have predicted Fury to KO Usyk easily.
But Fury seems to be unserious about the sport again. he fought Chisora in last fight, he is talking about Ngannou...I just don`t see that he is focused enough to beat a guy like Usyk.
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Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post
I'm no AJ apologist, but easily is a big exaggeration for the second fight. Usyk had to dig down deep in the championship rounds and outwork a gassed, but still holding his own, Joshua. Usyk looked worse for the wear afterwards, with lumps and bruises, and that's without Joshua ever imposing his will and using his physical advantages to go for the KO instead of boxing with a boxer.
If you analyse and compared the two Uysk vs Joshua fights. What because clear is that? Out of the two fighters, Joshua improved in the second fight.
If a third fight was made, there is a very high likely-hood that this trajectory will continue 'I will be honest, I would back Joshua again to beat Usyk' The fight would not be a forgone conclusion.
Joshua in the first fight, lost in the latter rounds 'Due to not being able to maintain the accuracy in his work, as he become more fatigued'.
Joshua in the first fight actually produced a overall higher work rate than Usyk 'But this come with a consequence, in the latter rounds his technique was not as astute due to fatigue. And this is what Uysk capitalized on, and were he won the fight'.
During the second fight, Joshua managed his pace much better 'When the fatigue set in, which is going to happened to most fighters. Joshua this time around, held his shape composure and was not making a high number of unforced errors'.
Skill for skill Usyk vs Joshua was a by far higher level contest than Wilder vs Fury III. From round 2 on wards in that fight, both fighters were fatigued and making unforced errors 'The work-rate's of both fighters was also less than Usyk & Joshua' In terms of technical skill, Wilder vs Fury was a low level contest 'I don't class it as a elite display of boxing ability skill for skill, both fighters were a complete mess from round 2 on wards'.
Joshua's best attribute is not his endurance, but if you really analyse his fights and compare his performances to most other Heavyweights. Joshua has better endurance than 90-95% of the entire Heavyweight division 'Fury has acquired this stereotype of having monster endurance, but the statistics of his fights do not show this' It is all mythological and made up.
I don't think overall this era of Heavyweights have great endurance, it is not a strong trait of modern day super Heavyweights. I have predicted that if Fury loses to Usyk, it will be due to fatigued and making unforced errors in the latter rounds 'The fight will surprisingly look very similar to Joshua vs Usyk, only difference being? That Fury may impose his superior inside game much better than Joshua in the early rounds 'The conundrum and challenge for Fury is whether he can maintain this intensity without becoming a technical mess like he was vs Wilder'.
Usyk I think needs to beat these Super Heavyweights than bounce. The longer he stays around in the division, the more fighters will figured out his game 'Joshua traits and abilities as a fighter help him adapt over the long term compared to acutely' If the 3rd Joshua vs Usyk fight was made, it will definitely be a even closer fight.
Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-11-2023, 10:50 AM.
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Originally posted by kafkod View Post
When - or if - the fight gets signed, Fury will definitely take Usyk seriously. What I'm worried about now is that Fury could swerve the undisputed fight and go after the easy money with Ngannou instead.
Than, I guess, Usyk will fight Wilder. And his belts will be separated.
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