For those who believe Bivol is the guy pushing for the rematch to take place at 168.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I’m more of a Floyd fan than I am a Canelo fan so not sure where you’re going with this.

But how does that prove that Canelo is the one pushing for the Bivol rematch to be at 168?

Right there exposes your problem, you judge a situation dependent on who you support rather than remaining impartial. I’m not trying to trigger you, I’m just calling the situation as I see it.

You’re saying because Bivol has said he’s willing to go to 168 that’s he’s the guy pushing for this fight to be at 168.

Well, Canelo also said he was willing to go to 150 so by your own logic, he was the guy pushing for the catchweight with Floyd.

It exposes how ridiculous your logic is as anyone with a shred of common sense can see why these weight alterations have been imposed and who they accommodate.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Right. The facts don’t contradict Canelo’s tainted meat story. So it could have happened as he said. Which is as far as I’ve ever gone with that.

RJJ is entitled to have an opinion. But it would be good if he based it on similar facts at least.

Facts like:

- Canelo has dictated 7 weight alterations in the past.
- Canelo is the A side.
- Canelo is the fighter who has fought at 168 multiple times in the past.

Those aren’t facts to you???

[MulaKO]

ShoulderRoll you seem to have avoided answering this post, why is that?

Alright smart azz , answer me this ?
How can one man blind so many people ?
Literally making them nuthuggers
Why , I demand to know


Lmfao

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Alright smart azz , answer me this ?
How can one man blind so many people ?
Literally making them nuthuggers
Why , I demand to know


Lmfao

I don’t get it man, like I’m a massive Roy fan, but if someone said to me I suspect Roy was using PED’s, I’d be like yeah he probably was. Even if you said Roy beat a lot of past prime guys like McCallum, Hill, Johnson etc, I’d be like I don’t totally agree but you make a fair point.

Some of these fans are just blinded by their love for fighters. They won’t accept any shred of criticism even if it’s staring them boldly in the face.

[IronDanHamza]

Right. The facts don’t contradict Canelo’s tainted meat story. So it could have happened as he said. Which is as far as I’ve ever gone with that.

RJJ is entitled to have an opinion. But it would be good if he based it on similar facts at least.

That’s the point, he has based it on similar facts.

It COULD have happened how Canelo said. Just like it COULD have happened because he mistimed his cycle. It doesn’t matter what COULD have happened what matters is what we know.

There is no evidence that Canelo had Clen in his system due to tainted meat. That is the point here.

RJ’s evidence for his reasoning as to why Canelo chooses the weight where this fight happens is no weaker than yours.

Like I said, realistically his stance has more legs than yours does.

[ShoulderRoll]

RJ’s evidence for his reasoning as to why Canelo chooses the weight where this fight happens is no weaker than yours.

Like I said, realistically his stance has more legs than yours does.

There is actual evidence in the clenbuterol situation.

What actual evidence does RJJ have about the current push for a Bivol rematch to be at 168?

[MulaKO]

I don’t get it man, like I’m a massive Roy fan, but if someone said to me I suspect Roy was using PED’s, I’d be like yeah he probably was. Even if you said Roy beat a lot of past prime guys like McCallum, Hill, Johnson etc, I’d be like I don’t totally agree but you make a fair point.

Some of these fans are just blinded by their love for fighters. They won’t accept any shred of criticism even if it’s staring them boldly in the face.

Is that how they go blind lol ?
Valentine’s Day coming up and you wanna spoil it
Rien a faire like the French would say

[IronDanHamza]

There is actual evidence in the clenbuterol situation.

What actual evidence does RJJ have about the current push for a Bivol rematch to be at 168?

No, there isn’t actual evidence in the Clen situation like I have just explained to you.

There is in fact, no evidence AT ALL that Canelo tested positive due to tainted meat. You understand that, right? That there is no evidence for that claim?

I’ve told you but I’ll tell you again, RJ is basing his opinion off the fact #1 Canelo calls the shots and the fact #2 He has a long history of weight demands and stipulations.

His stance has more legs than yours if anything.

Because your stance on the Clenbutrol is baseless.

[ShoulderRoll]

No, there isn’t actual evidence in the Clen situation like I have just explained to you.

There is in fact, no evidence AT ALL that Canelo tested positive due to tainted meat. You understand that, right? That there is no evidence for that claim?

I’ve told you but I’ll tell you again, RJ is basing his opinion off the fact #1 Canelo calls the shots and the fact #2 He has a long history of weight demands and stipulations.

His stance has more legs than yours if anything.

Because your stance on the Clenbutrol is baseless.

The trace amounts of clenbuterol found in Canelo’s system were consistent with eating tainted meat. Mexico has a known history of having a tainted meat problem. Visiting soccer teams have had large numbers of their squad test positive for clenbuterol when participating in competitions in Mexico.

Does that mean that Canelo’s story has to be true? No. But there is enough there to say that his excuse is believable.

RJJ has offered nothing to make it believable that Canelo is currently the one pushing for 168.

[IronDanHamza]

The trace amounts of clenbuterol found in Canelo’s system were consistent with eating tainted meat. Mexico has a known history of having a tainted meat problem. Visiting soccer teams have had large numbers of their squad test positive for clenbuterol when participating in competitions in Mexico.

Does that mean that Canelo’s story has to be true? No. But there is enough there to say that his excuse is believable.

RJJ has offered nothing to make it believable that Canelo is currently the one pushing for 168.

Ok and again, as I’ve already explained to you, that doesn’t equate to evidence.

That is a fallacy argument that you’ve just tried to make. Just because something is possible doesn’t make it evidence. Quite the opposite actually.

There is no evidence that Canelo’s positive test had anything to do with tainted meat. None. Zero. I don’t know how I can make this any easier to understand.

But RJ has though, he’s offered more than you have for your argument which you can’t seem to grasp it seems.

RJ has a basis for his argument. You have none.