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  • #21
    Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

    False, he beat JEFF FXCKING HORN for the one belt at 147 that he's held hostage from any top contender in the weight class. He's had numerous chances to face top competition and avoided them or waited until they were about to retire. He was on Top Rank with Pacquiao and Mikey Garcia, but of course, he's never even tried to fight them, and they were top of the food chain type fighters at the time.

    While Spence was fighting Brook, who was a champion, Porter, who was in his prime and a champion, Danny Garcia, who was a top contender's and former champion, even coming off of a horrible accident; Crawford was fighting Jose Benavidez jr., Khan, and Kavaliauskas. That's embarrassing in the difference in comparison of drive, hunger, and wanting to face the best.

    I'm not even going to get into what he did in December, I've stated my feelings on the matter enough. But, its understandable in what you're not recognizing in the young lions Ennis and Ortiz, because you've grown accustomed to rooting for someone, Bud, that is willing to fight mid-tier opponents for big money and recognition. These young fighters, Boots and Virgil, want to fight Spence because they consider him the best in the division, and that's who they want to beat, so that they will be seen as the best.

    Beating Spence, the holder of 3 belts that fought 3 champions, and went through the tougher opponents means a lot more than beating Crawford, the Jeff Horn and mid-tier assassin.
    You sound like a cheerleader.....lol.

    Crawford beat Jeff Horn, who got his title from Manny Pacquiao. Sure it's controversial but fact is Manny couldn't get him out of there and Crawford did. Manny got bullied, Crawford threw him around. Crawford never lost a round to Horn. This is the same Manny that was protected from Crawford while he was with Top Rank. It was confirmed by Bob Arum and Freddie Roach when interviewed about Viktor Postol afterwards. And I can clear see you don't follow boxing.... Mikey Garcia was a ****in featherweight through 2013. In 2014, Mikey began his dispute with Top Rank and didn't get in the ring again until after the contract was ended in 2016......that's win Mikey was competing at 130 lbs. Mikey didn't even move up to 135 lbs until 2017... the same year Crawford became undisputed at 140 and moved up to 147....... Why TF would Crawford try to fight Mikey Garcia whom was always 2 division below him..... Only one doing **** like that is Errol Spence Jr and Tank Davis.

    Jose Benavidez was the #6 ranked welterweight at the time of the bout and UNDEFEATED. Kavaliuaskas was also the #6 welterweight at the time of the bout and UNDEFEATED. Crawford's mandatory. Amir Khan fight only happened because Danny Garcia turned down Bob Arum's offer to fight Crawford. Both he and his daddy confirmed that in their interview. And stop trying to claim Porter was about to retire....he was on his podcast talking about plans to rematch with Thurman, Spence, & Ugas as well as a possibility of moving up to 154 before he was mandated to fight Crawford. Nobody planning on retiring soon is going to be discussing fights he can get at the next division. Plus Crawford is a little older than Porter, so if he's passed his prime, so is Crawford and yet he was still able to do something to Porter that a much young Spence couldn't.

    Let's address Spence.... a mfer who fought as a middleweight in the amateurs.... fights in the Olympics at 152 lbs. Starts his pro career at 154 lbs.... gets rocked by Emmanuel Lartie Lartey, then moves down to 147 just so he can become a contender. And who is his first welterweight opponent.......Gerardo Cuevas... a man who was 17-11 and has since retired at 18-19.....He got his first title from a drained Kell Brook who was coming off of surgery. He wouldn't fight Keith Thurman in a unification bout, but he was willing to fight Shawn Porter who lost to Thurman. Porter's title was vacated by Thurman due to injury. EJ followed that fight with 2 opponents who LOST to Porter... Danny & Ugas. Ugas was given a title and then defended it vs a 42 year old Manny who hadn't been in the ring in 2 years. I didn't even point out the fact EJ claim Crawford needed to prove himself at 147, but he was more than willing to jump in the ring with Mikey Garcia who was competing at 135 lbs and yet still couldn't hurt him.

    Spence claims to be the Boogie Man but he has yet to fight a mandatory Ocampo. He has 5 fighters who are actively trying to get a fight with him. Your Boogie Man told Crawford to his face that he was going to go the "Easy Route" right after Crawford said that he would stop him.....Your Boogie Man wants Crawford who makes more than him, fight for no guarantee.... Your Boogie Man chants "Strap Season" but now he's RUMORED to be fighting Keith Thurman with NO TITLES ON THE LINE.......

    You brag about Spence beating Porter, Danny, & Ugas.....3 mfers who have lost to every elite opponent they faced in the division. Porter's biggest win is vs Broner. Danny's biggest win is vs Paulie. Ugas biggest win is vs a 42 year old Manny who was contemplating leaving to sport to fun for president just 3 weeks before Spence dropped out of the fight.

    Go read a book before ****ing at the computer talking about nonsense you know nothing about.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post

      You have an amusing imagination. Bud has been calling that COWARD out since 2018 and has been met with a litany of excuses. Earl hasn't fought a mandatory in over two years. You Spence man fans cite Ugas as though he's an elite welterweight. Hers not and never has been. He's an aging Cuban body bag with minimal power, five losses and a two year absence from the sport when the losses against soda cans began piling up.

      Lots of fighters have tried to walk through Fundora. None have succeeded. To get to his body, you have to wade through lots of punishment. Earl would get brutalized for 8-9 rounds. His face would look like Lubin's. Lubin hasn't fought since Fundora rearranged his face.

      Castano would be too much for Spence at 154. He already beat him in the amateurs and would do it again. Earl is making a mistake moving up at age 32. I doubt he would beat Harrison.
      Lol, I like how you try to defend Bud, but sometimes loyalty is the opponent of facts. The only cowardly acts that have been displayed come from Crawford and his history of taking the low level fights that no one wants to see, thus the reason he can't sell out a gas station.

      Ugas was a CHAMPION, and he became a champion by beating shxt down Pacquiao's leg. The same Pacquiao that Bud ran away from for years, cowardly. Spence broke Ugas' face, and took his strap, AND called out Crawford, who ran, AGAIN, and chose AVANESYEN over undisputed, cowardly.

      Fundora got knocked down by Lubin, but got lucky when Lubin gassed out. Spence doesn't have those types of problems, and is is a much better skilled and destructive fighter than Lubin. Castano, as I said before, is the perfect style for Spence, as Errol destroys every pressure fighter with skills and volume.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point View Post

        You sound like a cheerleader.....lol.

        Crawford beat Jeff Horn, who got his title from Manny Pacquiao. Sure it's controversial but fact is Manny couldn't get him out of there and Crawford did. Manny got bullied, Crawford threw him around. Crawford never lost a round to Horn. This is the same Manny that was protected from Crawford while he was with Top Rank. It was confirmed by Bob Arum and Freddie Roach when interviewed about Viktor Postol afterwards. And I can clear see you don't follow boxing.... Mikey Garcia was a ****in featherweight through 2013. In 2014, Mikey began his dispute with Top Rank and didn't get in the ring again until after the contract was ended in 2016......that's win Mikey was competing at 130 lbs. Mikey didn't even move up to 135 lbs until 2017... the same year Crawford became undisputed at 140 and moved up to 147....... Why TF would Crawford try to fight Mikey Garcia whom was always 2 division below him..... Only one doing **** like that is Errol Spence Jr and Tank Davis.

        Jose Benavidez was the #6 ranked welterweight at the time of the bout and UNDEFEATED. Kavaliuaskas was also the #6 welterweight at the time of the bout and UNDEFEATED. Crawford's mandatory. Amir Khan fight only happened because Danny Garcia turned down Bob Arum's offer to fight Crawford. Both he and his daddy confirmed that in their interview. And stop trying to claim Porter was about to retire....he was on his podcast talking about plans to rematch with Thurman, Spence, & Ugas as well as a possibility of moving up to 154 before he was mandated to fight Crawford. Nobody planning on retiring soon is going to be discussing fights he can get at the next division. Plus Crawford is a little older than Porter, so if he's passed his prime, so is Crawford and yet he was still able to do something to Porter that a much young Spence couldn't.

        Let's address Spence.... a mfer who fought as a middleweight in the amateurs.... fights in the Olympics at 152 lbs. Starts his pro career at 154 lbs.... gets rocked by Emmanuel Lartie Lartey, then moves down to 147 just so he can become a contender. And who is his first welterweight opponent.......Gerardo Cuevas... a man who was 17-11 and has since retired at 18-19.....He got his first title from a drained Kell Brook who was coming off of surgery. He wouldn't fight Keith Thurman in a unification bout, but he was willing to fight Shawn Porter who lost to Thurman. Porter's title was vacated by Thurman due to injury. EJ followed that fight with 2 opponents who LOST to Porter... Danny & Ugas. Ugas was given a title and then defended it vs a 42 year old Manny who hadn't been in the ring in 2 years. I didn't even point out the fact EJ claim Crawford needed to prove himself at 147, but he was more than willing to jump in the ring with Mikey Garcia who was competing at 135 lbs and yet still couldn't hurt him.

        Spence claims to be the Boogie Man but he has yet to fight a mandatory Ocampo. He has 5 fighters who are actively trying to get a fight with him. Your Boogie Man told Crawford to his face that he was going to go the "Easy Route" right after Crawford said that he would stop him.....Your Boogie Man wants Crawford who makes more than him, fight for no guarantee.... Your Boogie Man chants "Strap Season" but now he's RUMORED to be fighting Keith Thurman with NO TITLES ON THE LINE.......

        You brag about Spence beating Porter, Danny, & Ugas.....3 mfers who have lost to every elite opponent they faced in the division. Porter's biggest win is vs Broner. Danny's biggest win is vs Paulie. Ugas biggest win is vs a 42 year old Manny who was contemplating leaving to sport to fun for president just 3 weeks before Spence dropped out of the fight.

        Go read a book before ****ing at the computer talking about nonsense you know nothing about.
        You have lies at your disposal. First of all, Porter clearly stated after the fight that he was contemplating retiring before the Crawford fight, but when he saw the chance for it to happen, he said that there's no better way to go out win or lose.

        Secondly, Ugas demolished Pacquiao, the same Pacquiao that just beat a 30-1 Thurman. The same Pacquiao that Bud could have DEMANDED a fight from under the same promotional company. So, stop with the protected bullshxt, a promoter wants to make money, and with 2 top names under them facing each other gets paid from both sides.

        Also, Mikey Garcia fought at 140 in 2016 and 2017, and But was in that division, but never chose to fight him. Your lies are run rampant in your excuses for this man, but you call me a cheerleader.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point View Post

          You sound like a cheerleader.....lol.

          Crawford beat Jeff Horn, who got his title from Manny Pacquiao. Sure it's controversial but fact is Manny couldn't get him out of there and Crawford did. Manny got bullied, Crawford threw him around. Crawford never lost a round to Horn. This is the same Manny that was protected from Crawford while he was with Top Rank. It was confirmed by Bob Arum and Freddie Roach when interviewed about Viktor Postol afterwards. And I can clear see you don't follow boxing.... Mikey Garcia was a ****in featherweight through 2013. In 2014, Mikey began his dispute with Top Rank and didn't get in the ring again until after the contract was ended in 2016......that's win Mikey was competing at 130 lbs. Mikey didn't even move up to 135 lbs until 2017... the same year Crawford became undisputed at 140 and moved up to 147....... Why TF would Crawford try to fight Mikey Garcia whom was always 2 division below him..... Only one doing **** like that is Errol Spence Jr and Tank Davis.

          Jose Benavidez was the #6 ranked welterweight at the time of the bout and UNDEFEATED. Kavaliuaskas was also the #6 welterweight at the time of the bout and UNDEFEATED. Crawford's mandatory. Amir Khan fight only happened because Danny Garcia turned down Bob Arum's offer to fight Crawford. Both he and his daddy confirmed that in their interview. And stop trying to claim Porter was about to retire....he was on his podcast talking about plans to rematch with Thurman, Spence, & Ugas as well as a possibility of moving up to 154 before he was mandated to fight Crawford. Nobody planning on retiring soon is going to be discussing fights he can get at the next division. Plus Crawford is a little older than Porter, so if he's passed his prime, so is Crawford and yet he was still able to do something to Porter that a much young Spence couldn't.

          Let's address Spence.... a mfer who fought as a middleweight in the amateurs.... fights in the Olympics at 152 lbs. Starts his pro career at 154 lbs.... gets rocked by Emmanuel Lartie Lartey, then moves down to 147 just so he can become a contender. And who is his first welterweight opponent.......Gerardo Cuevas... a man who was 17-11 and has since retired at 18-19.....He got his first title from a drained Kell Brook who was coming off of surgery. He wouldn't fight Keith Thurman in a unification bout, but he was willing to fight Shawn Porter who lost to Thurman. Porter's title was vacated by Thurman due to injury. EJ followed that fight with 2 opponents who LOST to Porter... Danny & Ugas. Ugas was given a title and then defended it vs a 42 year old Manny who hadn't been in the ring in 2 years. I didn't even point out the fact EJ claim Crawford needed to prove himself at 147, but he was more than willing to jump in the ring with Mikey Garcia who was competing at 135 lbs and yet still couldn't hurt him.

          Spence claims to be the Boogie Man but he has yet to fight a mandatory Ocampo. He has 5 fighters who are actively trying to get a fight with him. Your Boogie Man told Crawford to his face that he was going to go the "Easy Route" right after Crawford said that he would stop him.....Your Boogie Man wants Crawford who makes more than him, fight for no guarantee.... Your Boogie Man chants "Strap Season" but now he's RUMORED to be fighting Keith Thurman with NO TITLES ON THE LINE.......

          You brag about Spence beating Porter, Danny, & Ugas.....3 mfers who have lost to every elite opponent they faced in the division. Porter's biggest win is vs Broner. Danny's biggest win is vs Paulie. Ugas biggest win is vs a 42 year old Manny who was contemplating leaving to sport to fun for president just 3 weeks before Spence dropped out of the fight.

          Go read a book before ****ing at the computer talking about nonsense you know nothing about.
          You also tried to discredit Danny Garcia's opponents by stating that his biggest win was Paulie, well he beat Eric Morales, Matthysse, Judah, Peterson, Guerrero, and Vargas. Crawford wishes he had a resume like that. Porter was a two time champion and fought anyone that would step up to the fight. Tell Bud to grow some nuts and take his ass whooping so that Spence can become undisputed and move up.

          You reached to Errot's amateur career to try to say he's fighting below his weight class. Benavidez and Morrell fought at light heavyweight as amateurs, when you're young, you don't know how to condition yourself as as a professional, but you learn the game and move accordingly. As you grow and mature into your body, THEN you move up, as Spence will do after he puts the beats on Bud.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

            Lol, I like how you try to defend Bud, but sometimes loyalty is the opponent of facts. The only cowardly acts that have been displayed come from Crawford and his history of taking the low level fights that no one wants to see, thus the reason he can't sell out a gas station.

            Ugas was a CHAMPION, and he became a champion by beating shxt down Pacquiao's leg. The same Pacquiao that Bud ran away from for years, cowardly. Spence broke Ugas' face, and took his strap, AND called out Crawford, who ran, AGAIN, and chose AVANESYEN over undisputed, cowardly.

            Fundora got knocked down by Lubin, but got lucky when Lubin gassed out. Spence doesn't have those types of problems, and is is a much better skilled and destructive fighter than Lubin. Castano, as I said before, is the perfect style for Spence, as Errol destroys every pressure fighter with skills and volume.
            Bud was chasing the DeSoto, TX fruitcake for 4+ years. Once it became evident that Earl and Shady Al were playing games, Crawford moved on and got a fight in before the end of the year. Was Bud supposed to wait until May for Al to get serious?

            Ugas was an aging body bag who had zero business holding a welterweight title. He had four losses entering the Spence fight and two were to Mexicali can drivers and the other to Amir Imam, a career Jr. welterweight Adrian Grenados vaporized. The Pacquiao Ugas beat was semi-retired and focused on politics in the Philippines.

            Your boy is supposed to be after straps, but he's about to fight a guy he said he'd never fight above 147 with no straps on the line. Make it make sense. You can't and will simply continue to deflect.

            If Spence stays at 154 after his circle jerk with Keif, he will get pummeled back to 147 by guys like Fundora and Castano, trust me. After 7-8 rounds of getting beaten on by Fundora, Derrick James will toss in the towel, just like Coach Kev did to save Lubin.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

              You have lies at your disposal. First of all, Porter clearly stated after the fight that he was contemplating retiring before the Crawford fight, but when he saw the chance for it to happen, he said that there's no better way to go out win or lose.

              Secondly, Ugas demolished Pacquiao, the same Pacquiao that just beat a 30-1 Thurman. The same Pacquiao that Bud could have DEMANDED a fight from under the same promotional company. So, stop with the protected bullshxt, a promoter wants to make money, and with 2 top names under them facing each other gets paid from both sides.

              Also, Mikey Garcia fought at 140 in 2016 and 2017, and But was in that division, but never chose to fight him. Your lies are run rampant in your excuses for this man, but you call me a cheerleader.
              Clown.... do you even listen to what you are saying....

              Porter stated.....AFTER the fight that he was contemplating retiring..... But use your common sense..... what man contemplating retiring is on his own podcast talking about putting together rematches vs 3/4 opponents. What man contemplating retiring is having conversations about possibly moving up in weight? You want to bring up what Porter said AFTER getting his ass whipped.... Why ignore what was said leading up to it..... Porter GUARANTEED a KO of Crawford and doubled down on his guarantee the week of the fight..... They spent so much time posting videos on YouTube of Porter doing things in his camp that his daddy claim he has never done in his career. Workouts at their home and running in the mountains with them talking about they were going to provide pressure to Crawford that he has never faced vs any opponent he's faced. Said they had what it takes to crack the code of Crawford......only for his daddy to come up with the excuse that Porter wasn't able to have the best camp to prepare for Crawford. The **** I'm pointing out is documented......Everyone's story changes after the fact.....but what was the energy like before....... Porter was trying to get another world title. Said verbatim that he believes he can win another world title. But he gets stopped by Crawford and now "oh he was contemplating retirement"....... Where is one single article that suggested Porter was discussing the Crawford fight of being his last........because everything I pointed out can be found through a simple google search if you aren't too lazy to gather facts rather than just ****ing away with the ignorance you have.

              Crawford couldn't demand **** with Manny... First of all, Manny was fighting at 147/54....Crawford was still at 140 when he and Manny was under the same promotion banner. When have you ever seen a fighter in a smaller division DEMAND a fight from one of the biggest names in the sport who doesn't even fight in his division......Especially Crawford who's only PPV appearance was vs Viktor Postol at the time which sold what 150K buys........but he's going to demand a fight vs Manny Pacquiao who was fighting in a hire division who is the other half of the biggest PPV ticket in history........But Crawford can demand a fight with him?..........You sound ******.

              And Ugas, did not fight the same Pacquiao that beat Thurman.....TF are you talking about. After Manny fought Thurman, he hadn't been in the ring for over 2 years. He was campaigning and trying to become the President of the Phillipines. Clearly you are too ignorant to understand that the time demand it takes to be a politician does not co-exist with the time demand it takes to be a world class fighter very well.

              Crawford fought at 135 from March 14th of 2008 to March 1st of 2014.... He fought as a 140 til August 19th of 2017. Mikey was NOT competing at 140 in 2016 & 2017. If you stop running your mouth and use your WiFi to do some research you can easily see that he fought on a one fight deal which ended up with the 2 of them fighting at a catch weight because the contract didn't specify which weight class the fight would be present in. They fought at 138 lbs..... Mikey then fought for a title at 135 lbs vs Zlaticanin........He then fought Adrian Broner at a catch weight being that at the time, Broner's only 2 losses were at welterweight vs Maidana & Porter. Broner was having trouble making the 140 lb limit being that he missed weight vs Theophane when trying to drop back down to 140. They bring it up repeatedly in the post interviews.

              You don't even watch this sport.... You are just a Man Fan...... Spence must be you man crush. Your silly ass refuse to look at the facts and call them lies because they don't agree with your agenda.... Everything I stated is documented. It can be found if you actually use your WiFi to do research......Yes, you are an extremely passionate cheerleader. I'm done talking to your silly ass. You seem like the type to continue to run your mouth regardless of how ignorant you sound... You are here to try and win an argument on a subject you clearly know nothing about. I'm here to simply discuss boxing...........I'm sure like most chicks out here, you want the last word so you feel better about yourself......Go ahead and do your thing........I'm done with you.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

                You also tried to discredit Danny Garcia's opponents by stating that his biggest win was Paulie, well he beat Eric Morales, Matthysse, Judah, Peterson, Guerrero, and Vargas. Crawford wishes he had a resume like that. Porter was a two time champion and fought anyone that would step up to the fight. Tell Bud to grow some nuts and take his ass whooping so that Spence can become undisputed and move up.

                You reached to Errot's amateur career to try to say he's fighting below his weight class. Benavidez and Morrell fought at light heavyweight as amateurs, when you're young, you don't know how to condition yourself as as a professional, but you learn the game and move accordingly. As you grow and mature into your body, THEN you move up, as Spence will do after he puts the beats on Bud.
                Nice try with that bull****.... Danny beat each of those guys at 140 lbs......I guess I should have specified for you since you are clearly having a hard time with your comprehension. I am referring to Danny's fights as a welterweight......try to keep up with the conversation. Beating an old as Judah or whatever at 140 lbs doesn't change the point of the discussion.

                Since you like bring up mfers who avoid competition, I think it's funny you are standing behind Danny Garcia who avoided Crawford in 2 different divisions. Crawford won a world title at 140 lbs in April of 2015. Exactly 2 weekends after Danny beat Peterson. Crawford WITH A WORLD TITLE expressed that he was interested in a Danny fight. Even reached out to someone in his camp only for "Daddy Garcia" to talk about what his son would do to Crawford.... Later that year, they jumped to 147 to fight Paulie........Years later when Crawford moved up to 147, Bob Arum offered Danny $3M to fight Crawford for his title....Danny with nothing to lose still refused the fight. That is the definition of avoiding competition but your silly ass is using him as an example to continue your agenda against Crawford......lol.

                And miss me with that bull**** on Spence not being mature enough to fight at an appropriate division. Spence was a damn Olympian and had the most elite of coaches and trainers available to him to start his pro career. He fought 10x as a jr. middleweight.....He saw an opportunity to put himself in position to become a contender at a lower division and that's why he dropped. It had nothing to do with maturity of his body.....lol. He chose to fight a man who was easy pickings when he dropped to 147. 17-11 was his record.

                And if you are going to combat with a blatant lie, at least make it believable..... Jose Benavidez did not compete at light heavyweight.....Stop the ignorance. He was the 2009 light welterweight division Golden Gloves champion. He was named the youngest Golden Glove Champion in history. His last amateur fights were against Gary Allen Russell and Frankie Gomez......Now if you want to talk about David Benavidez fighting at light heavy weight, that would make sense, except the fact, David has nothing to do with Crawford. And David Morrell was fighting upwards as an amateur because he couldn't make the limit for the middle weight.... Light heavy weight in the amateurs is 81kg limit....which is about 178 lbs....Middle weight is 75 kg which is 165 lbs......David Morrell always came in around 169/70 lbs....so he had to fight in that division. Obviously, as a pro the super middle weight division has a 168 lb limit. Right in the ball park of his fighting weight. Plus, unlike the amateurs....where you weigh in and fight the same day, he weighs in a fights 24 hours later as a pro.

                Nice try though.... You suck at this by the way......lol.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point View Post

                  Nice try with that bull****.... Danny beat each of those guys at 140 lbs......I guess I should have specified for you since you are clearly having a hard time with your comprehension. I am referring to Danny's fights as a welterweight......try to keep up with the conversation. Beating an old as Judah or whatever at 140 lbs doesn't change the point of the discussion.

                  Since you like bring up mfers who avoid competition, I think it's funny you are standing behind Danny Garcia who avoided Crawford in 2 different divisions. Crawford won a world title at 140 lbs in April of 2015. Exactly 2 weekends after Danny beat Peterson. Crawford WITH A WORLD TITLE expressed that he was interested in a Danny fight. Even reached out to someone in his camp only for "Daddy Garcia" to talk about what his son would do to Crawford.... Later that year, they jumped to 147 to fight Paulie........Years later when Crawford moved up to 147, Bob Arum offered Danny $3M to fight Crawford for his title....Danny with nothing to lose still refused the fight. That is the definition of avoiding competition but your silly ass is using him as an example to continue your agenda against Crawford......lol.

                  And miss me with that bull**** on Spence not being mature enough to fight at an appropriate division. Spence was a damn Olympian and had the most elite of coaches and trainers available to him to start his pro career. He fought 10x as a jr. middleweight.....He saw an opportunity to put himself in position to become a contender at a lower division and that's why he dropped. It had nothing to do with maturity of his body.....lol. He chose to fight a man who was easy pickings when he dropped to 147. 17-11 was his record.

                  And if you are going to combat with a blatant lie, at least make it believable..... Jose Benavidez did not compete at light heavyweight.....Stop the ignorance. He was the 2009 light welterweight division Golden Gloves champion. He was named the youngest Golden Glove Champion in history. His last amateur fights were against Gary Allen Russell and Frankie Gomez......Now if you want to talk about David Benavidez fighting at light heavy weight, that would make sense, except the fact, David has nothing to do with Crawford. And David Morrell was fighting upwards as an amateur because he couldn't make the limit for the middle weight.... Light heavy weight in the amateurs is 81kg limit....which is about 178 lbs....Middle weight is 75 kg which is 165 lbs......David Morrell always came in around 169/70 lbs....so he had to fight in that division. Obviously, as a pro the super middle weight division has a 168 lb limit. Right in the ball park of his fighting weight. Plus, unlike the amateurs....where you weigh in and fight the same day, he weighs in a fights 24 hours later as a pro.

                  Nice try though.... You suck at this by the way......lol.
                  Lol, still lying. Crawford came to 147 in 2017. Pacquiao was still one of the top fighters at welterweight, another dumb ass narrative. Bud wanted no parts of that. He had a fight set up with Bud in 2020, but Arum said that the Middle East money pulled out due to the pandemic, so what part of that pushes your narrative that he was at 140 when Pacquiao was at 147 idiot.

                  Porter stated before the fight that the only fights he was willing to take was against champions, use YOUR common sense, he was trying to cash out. Danny said that he was willing to fight Crawford on multiple occasions, and it was crickets from Crawford. He fought Spence, so you should know that he wasn't afraid to face the weak ass resume of Bud. Crawford had chances to fight him at 140 and 147, but he has a history of what he chose to do.

                  Ugas really beat Porter, and he destroyed Pacquiao. By the way, your lie about Manny being out of the ring for 2 years before Ugas, Pacquiao fought Thurman in July of 2020 and fought Ugas in August 2021. Stop with the lies and excuses, and let that man hold his own dxck. You are a testicle wart that would do anything to defend your false ass narratives, just stop while you still have tonsils.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

                    Lol, still lying. Crawford came to 147 in 2017. Pacquiao was still one of the top fighters at welterweight, another dumb ass narrative. Bud wanted no parts of that. He had a fight set up with Bud in 2020, but Arum said that the Middle East money pulled out due to the pandemic, so what part of that pushes your narrative that he was at 140 when Pacquiao was at 147 idiot.

                    Porter stated before the fight that the only fights he was willing to take was against champions, use YOUR common sense, he was trying to cash out. Danny said that he was willing to fight Crawford on multiple occasions, and it was crickets from Crawford. He fought Spence, so you should know that he wasn't afraid to face the weak ass resume of Bud. Crawford had chances to fight him at 140 and 147, but he has a history of what he chose to do.

                    Ugas really beat Porter, and he destroyed Pacquiao. By the way, your lie about Manny being out of the ring for 2 years before Ugas, Pacquiao fought Thurman in July of 2020 and fought Ugas in August 2021. Stop with the lies and excuses, and let that man hold his own dxck. You are a testicle wart that would do anything to defend your false ass narratives, just stop while you still have tonsils.
                    You one of those ignorant mfers who refuse to be educated....lol.

                    In 2017, Manny was already rumored to be leaving Top Rank due to disagreements between Freddie Roach & Bob Arum. Thus the reason many felt that Bob Arum was behind the questionable judging of the Jeff Horn fight. Crawford re-signed with Top Rank in 2018 due to promises that TR would get the Manny/Thurman/Spence fights at welterweight. He even signed an extension after winning the WBO. No fight was set up in 2020 silly mfer. After the Crawford handled his mandatory (Kavaliauskas) he was trying to get a fight with Porter, Manny, & Spence.... Neither were interested in the fight or the numbers that Bob Arum was offering. Thus the reason why Kell Brook reached out to Crawford in February of 2020. Told him that if he's "looking for a dance partner, then I'm available"....Crawford responded with him asking "can you make weight"...... The **** is on video. There are multiple articles addressing it. The pandemic shut down boxing....when the option for the bubble first surfaced, Bob Arum wanted Crawford to fight on discount, Crawford wasn't for it. The first fight since the pandemic fight was a Top Rank event in which Shakur Stevenson was the main event. That was supposed to be Crawford, but Top Rank had to first figure out how to pay Crawford his minimum ($6M) while still making their money.

                    I follow Porter's podcast faithfully. You talking about common sense.....dumb ass..... Porter has yet to beat an elite welterweight. Why in the world would he limit his opportunities to just champions? He wasn't a shot caller in the division. Never was.... You sound ******. His whole podcast earlier in the year he talked about rematches vs Danny, Thurman, & Spence. Even mentioned his interest in a Manny fight and moving up. He was asked specifically about a Crawford and he casually stated that he wouldn't mind that fight happening, then changed the subject.

                    Danny had chances to fight Crawford but chose not to. He was addressed about the match up at 140, but Danny stated he was going to move up to 147..... At 147, he got an official offer and they rejected it......

                    Ugas on record loss to Porter. I felt he won but it don't matter what I feel......His record shows he lost. And he beat a old ass Manny.....By the way......here is another example of your ****** ass not being equipped to hold a conversation with me........Manny had ZERO fights in 2020....he had specific duties as a Senator that kept him from getting the dates he wanted. Crawford was the only one who was attempting to fight him later that year, but the interest wasn't there due to no audience was allowed in the buildings and Crawford not being a big enough name to promote it. Manny fought Keith Thurman JULY 20, 2019........he fought Ugas as a replacement for Spence on August 21, 2021.......How TF is that not 2 years. Your dumb ass can't even count.

                    Take your ****** ass over to the corner and work on your homework. You are struggling fundamentally, logically, and from your corny ass insults that expose the ***** in you, you seem to be struggling emotionally............

                    I gave you the facts.........I know the ***** in you won't accept it...... You need the last word...... I'm done trying to teach you. Ignorant mfers will stay ignorant by all means........I'm done with you clown.

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