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  • #11
    Crawford's brute strength, I don't think? Is really on the level of Spence Junior's

    I don't think any fighter has really put Crawford under sustained bombardment 'Especially not at 147 pounds'.

    But yes Crawford is a spiteful and accurate puncher. Aggressive and competitive attitude.

    There is a possibility that skill for skill Crawford may be marginally the better fighter, than Spence Junior 'But it is extremely close'.

    One thing I like about Spence Junior is the body attacks, his Jab and pace of pressure fighting.
    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 01-13-2023, 09:27 AM.

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    • #12
      It got too hot in the kitchen for Spence at 147, but if he thinks he's going to 154 and having success against guys like Fundora and Castano, he's in for a big surprise. Castano already beat Spence in the amateurs and knows his style well.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post
        It got too hot in the kitchen for Spence at 147, but if he thinks he's going to 154 and having success against guys like Fundora and Castano, he's in for a big surprise. Castano already beat Spence in the amateurs and knows his style well.
        It didn't get too hot, the last strap was being held hostage, but Spence stated that he will fight Crawford at 147 for undisputed before he moves up, that's if Bud doesn't jump out of the window when its time to make the fight again.

        Castano doesn't want any of that type of Big Fish work. He would get treated the same as Virgil Ortiz. They are both pressure fighters that can only box coming forward on the front foot, Castano would be eating jabs, uppercuts, bodyshots, and swinging at air until he deteriorates. It would be a savage beating, just getting walked into punches all night.

        And Fundora is a spaghetti string, a bean pole; against THE BODYSNATCHER, man, you can't be serious. That's utter annihilation, all the while with a smile on his face.
        Last edited by Rebelrbg; 01-13-2023, 10:55 AM.

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        • #14
          Crawford may not look it but he's stronger than most 147ners. He manhandled Porter the way no other boxer ever did. Guys talk the talk but lose their balls in the ring with him...
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          • #15
            He’s cerebral with his choice of opponents.
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            • #16
              Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

              Keep dreaming, he doesn't dominate his own division, much less move up and face stronger fighters at 154. If he moves up and tries to cherry pick at 154, he might get knocked out.
              Crawford has dominated every opponent he's faced at 147. All but one were ranked in the top 10 of the division at the time of the fight. During that same time Spence has yet to face a legit opponent who he didn't have a clear advantage over and/or was coming off an injury. Only fight he's been calling for is the Spence fight for the last 5 years. Everyone knocking him for taking the Avanesyan fight is ignorantly hypocritical in their comments. Those people are knocking him for getting paid at least once in 2022, rather than waiting to see IF Spence decides to fight him in 2023. This after Crawford has been waiting and negotiating since February. Yet, those same people claim Crawford is afraid because he isn't jumping at the opportunity to fight a couple fighters who have NOTHING to lose to Crawford in Ennis and Ortiz. Even though, clearly both of them would rather fight Spence than Crawford because of their skill set as we can see from their recent petitions.
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              • #17
                Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point View Post

                Crawford has dominated every opponent he's faced at 147. All but one were ranked in the top 10 of the division at the time of the fight. During that same time Spence has yet to face a legit opponent who he didn't have a clear advantage over and/or was coming off an injury. Only fight he's been calling for is the Spence fight for the last 5 years. Everyone knocking him for taking the Avanesyan fight is ignorantly hypocritical in their comments. Those people are knocking him for getting paid at least once in 2022, rather than waiting to see IF Spence decides to fight him in 2023. This after Crawford has been waiting and negotiating since February. Yet, those same people claim Crawford is afraid because he isn't jumping at the opportunity to fight a couple fighters who have NOTHING to lose to Crawford in Ennis and Ortiz. Even though, clearly both of them would rather fight Spence than Crawford because of their skill set as we can see from their recent petitions.
                False, he beat JEFF FXCKING HORN for the one belt at 147 that he's held hostage from any top contender in the weight class. He's had numerous chances to face top competition and avoided them or waited until they were about to retire. He was on Top Rank with Pacquiao and Mikey Garcia, but of course, he's never even tried to fight them, and they were top of the food chain type fighters at the time.

                While Spence was fighting Brook, who was a champion, Porter, who was in his prime and a champion, Danny Garcia, who was a top contender's and former champion, even coming off of a horrible accident; Crawford was fighting Jose Benavidez jr., Khan, and Kavaliauskas. That's embarrassing in the difference in comparison of drive, hunger, and wanting to face the best.

                I'm not even going to get into what he did in December, I've stated my feelings on the matter enough. But, its understandable in what you're not recognizing in the young lions Ennis and Ortiz, because you've grown accustomed to rooting for someone, Bud, that is willing to fight mid-tier opponents for big money and recognition. These young fighters, Boots and Virgil, want to fight Spence because they consider him the best in the division, and that's who they want to beat, so that they will be seen as the best.

                Beating Spence, the holder of 3 belts that fought 3 champions, and went through the tougher opponents means a lot more than beating Crawford, the Jeff Horn and mid-tier assassin.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

                  It didn't get too hot, the last strap was being held hostage, but Spence stated that he will fight Crawford at 147 for undisputed before he moves up, that's if Bud doesn't jump out of the window when its time to make the fight again.

                  Castano doesn't want any of that type of Big Fish work. He would get treated the same as Virgil Ortiz. They are both pressure fighters that can only box coming forward on the front foot, Castano would be eating jabs, uppercuts, bodyshots, and swinging at air until he deteriorates. It would be a savage beating, just getting walked into punches all night.

                  And Fundora is a spaghetti string, a bean pole; against THE BODYSNATCHER, man, you can't be serious. That's utter annihilation, all the while with a smile on his face.
                  Put the crack pipe down, son. Fundora would steadily grind Spence down into fine powder and stop him in 8-9 without breaking much of a sweat. Castano would have little problem with Spence and would keep him on the ropes. If a killer like Jermell had trouble taming Castano, do you expect an alcoholic like Spence to?

                  Bud didn't run from the fight. He simply got tired of the games Spence and Haymon we're playing. They were in negotiations for six months, then the right was pushed back from November to March 2023. GTFOH!!! The hedge fund money is starting to trickle in again, so maybe Al will be serious this time around. If this fight is ever made, expect your boy to get taken apart like a cheap watch.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post

                    Put the crack pipe down, son. Fundora would steadily grind Spence down into fine powder and stop him in 8-9 without breaking much of a sweat. Castano would have little problem with Spence and would keep him on the ropes. If a killer like Jermell had trouble taming Castano, do you expect an alcoholic like Spence to?

                    Bud didn't run from the fight. He simply got tired of the games Spence and Haymon we're playing. They were in negotiations for six months, then the right was pushed back from November to March 2023. GTFOH!!! The hedge fund money is starting to trickle in again, so maybe Al will be serious this time around. If this fight is ever made, expect your boy to get taken apart like a cheap watch.
                    Cut it out with all of your fables and fabricated excuses. Crawford ran, as his history has shown he will when he has to fight the best. He fought in NOVEMBER 2021, and chose not to fight Boots, Ortiz, Stanionis or any top contender afterwards. Spence didn't fight until April, against ANOTHER champion and took his strap, and called out Bud. Crawford CHOSE Avanesyen, same old Bud.

                    As far as Fundora, he's a matchstick that stands no chance against the vicious body attack of Errol. Castano and Ortiz are carbon copies of each other, pressure fighters that can't fight off of the back foot, and would walk right into stiff jabs, uppercuts, hooks, and body shots all fight. He would get done dirty....brutalized.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Rebelrbg View Post

                      Cut it out with all of your fables and fabricated excuses. Crawford ran, as his history has shown he will when he has to fight the best. He fought in NOVEMBER 2021, and chose not to fight Boots, Ortiz, Stanionis or any top contender afterwards. Spence didn't fight until April, against ANOTHER champion and took his strap, and called out Bud. Crawford CHOSE Avanesyen, same old Bud.

                      As far as Fundora, he's a matchstick that stands no chance against the vicious body attack of Errol. Castano and Ortiz are carbon copies of each other, pressure fighters that can't fight off of the back foot, and would walk right into stiff jabs, uppercuts, hooks, and body shots all fight. He would get done dirty....brutalized.
                      You have an amusing imagination. Bud has been calling that COWARD out since 2018 and has been met with a litany of excuses. Earl hasn't fought a mandatory in over two years. You Spence man fans cite Ugas as though he's an elite welterweight. Hers not and never has been. He's an aging Cuban body bag with minimal power, five losses and a two year absence from the sport when the losses against soda cans began piling up.

                      Lots of fighters have tried to walk through Fundora. None have succeeded. To get to his body, you have to wade through lots of punishment. Earl would get brutalized for 8-9 rounds. His face would look like Lubin's. Lubin hasn't fought since Fundora rearranged his face.

                      Castano would be too much for Spence at 154. He already beat him in the amateurs and would do it again. Earl is making a mistake moving up at age 32. I doubt he would beat Harrison.

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