Thurman Only Has 1 Loss To Pacquiao And Is Still A Better Win Than Anyone On Crawford's Resume

[Hooded Terror]

Dude has one foot in retirement already and has for years. His last good win is like 5-6 years ago. He's a name and nothing more at this point. I don't care who Spence or Crawford fight if they're not fighting each other. They might as well both retire as far as I'm concerned if they won't get in the ring with one another.

If I had used that same logic I would have never gone on to appreciate Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis and even Roy Jones JR.

Superfights and unifications are absolutely grand, but history shows us they don't always happen. We can pummel Crawford all we want, but his last appearance was against a Ring-rated top-10 contender whereas Spence has been on the shelf for almost 11 months. Was Crawford supposed to pitch his tent and wait for Team Spence to get around to things. Better yet, was Crawford, his lack of supposed business accumen aside, expected to ignore the murmurs of PBC having money issues? Or should Crawford have just ignored the calendar and hoped another fighter would get his agenda in gear and hitched his wagon to that, sort of like Team Ennis in 2022? Fighters fight.

I know, I know. Spence had yet another auto mishap, but THAT occured before Spence had anything firm on his dance card beyond rumors. Further, Keith Thurman, at 154, no less?

[ELPacman]

Shot to shlt Margarito* was bigger than Pac
Shot to shlt DLH* was taller than Pac

Did I leave anyone out ?!?!

Shot Algieri, Bummy Clottey, Shot Broner, Vargas, Timmy, Shot Rios, Ugas, Shot Mosley, etc...all pillow punchers or the worst version of themself.

The only WW name a Pac fan can be kinda proud of is Sometime.
One name out of how many ?!?!?

What other div could Pac have fought in, if not WW ????

Well, that there lies the issue. He could of stayed at 135lbs or 140lbs, but the opponents there wouldn't have brought in as much money. Nor was the demand for fights at those weights. Fans wanted to see Pac all a sudden face everyone at WW once they knew he could face guys there. They didn't want him going back down despite his best capability I'd say would have been at 140lbs. Just look at how easily he man handled Ricky and it was only for that 1 fight.

You can say the same about Pac being shot. He was literally KO'd to another dimension by hulk version JMM, then came back and fought all those guys.

[djtmal]

Shot to shlt Margarito
Shot to shlt DLH

This guy gives overexaggeration new meaning

[BodyBagz]

Well, that there lies the issue. He could of stayed at 135lbs or 140lbs, but the opponents there wouldn't have brought in as much money. Nor was the demand for fights at those weights. Fans wanted to see Pac all a sudden face everyone at WW once they knew he could face guys there. They didn't want him going back down despite his best capability I'd say would have been at 140lbs. Just look at how easily he man handled Ricky and it was only for that 1 fight.

You can say the same about Pac being shot. He was literally KO'd to another dimension by hulk version JMM, then came back and fought all those guys.

Pac moved up because there was danger down there.
Pac moved up and fought people only his fans approved of.

JMM was a credible opponent but the very style Pac craves.
Those fights are epic because JMM kept coming back.

Cotto would have been a great name if it wasn;t for the CW.
How Pac fans can say that was prime Cotto is laughable
Why is it Cotto didn't stay at that weight, huh ?!?!?

No fan base has so many excuses ready to use than the Pac Bois.

''You can say Pac was shot.'' !!!!
Compared to those he fought and put a * on ?!?!?

Pac was always the faster fighter in the ring.

[BodyBagz]

This guy gives overexaggeration new meaning

Coming from a Pac Boi cult member, you'd call them prime AF.
That their careers were not effected by the * Pac put on them.

Sometime is the only legit WW guy Pac beat and it came down to that flash KD.

[Roadblock]

This guy gives overexaggeration new meaning

While you give denial a cast iron box to live in.

Margarito was shot and coming of a 2 yr banning a hard KO loss, and got the short end of the stick with a bunch of match-making tactics such as weight, ring size, and gloves, adding up to making it pretty much impossible for him to be competitive, it was a BS fight for a BS non exist title all because Uri Foreman said no CW and Roach said Foreman is too big, guess what ironically Margarito was the same size as Foreman.

Oscar was not shot just weight drained so bad even Roach said after seeing the IV marks and light weighing that it won't go 3 rounds, this is on top of Steve Forbes making Oscar look like sht 3 pounds heavier the fight before and Roacvh saying Oscar can't pull the trigger, it's laughable reading the form of opponents going into Mannys biggest name fights, Teddy nailed it saying Manny's resume was man-made to order, from David Diaz onward Manny's resume is displaying the art of manipulation if you know boxing it's easy to see.

The trouble with you is that you cannot be real youre so blinded in fanboy nothing you say is congruent with reality.

[djtmal]

While you give denial a cast iron box to live in.

Margarito was shot and coming of a 2 yr banning a hard KO loss, and got the short end of the stick with a bunch of match-making tactics such as weight, ring size, and gloves, adding up to making it pretty much impossible for him to be competitive, it was a BS fight for a BS non exist title all because Uri Foreman said no CW and Roach said Foreman is too big, guess what ironically Margarito was the same size as Foreman.

Oscar was not shot just weight drained so bad even Roach said after seeing the IV marks and light weighing that it won't go 3 rounds, this is on top of Steve Forbes making Oscar look like sht 3 pounds heavier the fight before and Roacvh saying Oscar can't pull the trigger, it's laughable reading the form of opponents going into Mannys biggest name fights, Teddy nailed it saying Manny's resume was man-made to order, from David Diaz onward Manny's resume is displaying the art of manipulation if you know boxing it's easy to see.

The trouble with you is that you cannot be real youre so blinded in fanboy nothing you say is congruent with reality.

Please man Manny beat those guys fair and square. Both those guys were bigger plus had height/reach advantages. He fought the same faded version of Oscar that your crush Floyd did and beat the brakes off him. Oscar called all the shots in that fight to boot. Was it a all time great win no but Oscar was the favorite and Manny sending him into retirement made him a legit guy at ww.

The mere fact he made a fight with Margarito is all it's about because your crush Floyd was scared to fight him when presented to him way before Manny hit ww and that was no easy fight Manny took a lot of punishment from Margarito. Floyd never wanted to get his hands dirty fighting Margarito and to this day you Floyd boys make excuses for Floyd legitly ducking him.

Sour g****s man that's all it is from you excuse laden Floyd Boys. Manny's willingness to make fights with the worst style mismatches may not have given him a perfect record but given him a respect you Floyd boys can't come up with the excuses to reverse.

We keep telling you guys all Floyd had to do was beat the best guys In their prime man.

[djtmal]

Coming from a Pac Boi cult member, you'd call them prime AF.
That their careers were not effected by the * Pac put on them.

Sometime is the only legit WW guy Pac beat and it came down to that flash KD.

Ha the guy mentions that Thurman lost to Manny and you are on here throwing a hissy fit.

[BodyBagz]

Ha the guy mentions that Thurman lost to Manny and you are on here throwing a hissy fit.

Only Pac Bois see it that way

TS doesn't.

1 name out how many ???

[Roadblock]

Please man Manny beat those guys fair and square. Both those guys were bigger plus had height/reach advantages. He fought the same faded version of Oscar that your crush Floyd did and beat the brakes off him. Oscar called all the shots in that fight to boot. Was it a all time great win no but Oscar was the favorite and Manny sending him into retirement made him a legit guy at ww.

The mere fact he made a fight with Margarito is all it's about because your crush Floyd was scared to fight him when presented to him way before Manny hit ww and that was no easy fight Manny took a lot of punishment from Margarito. Floyd never wanted to get his hands dirty fighting Margarito and to this day you Floyd boys make excuses for Floyd legitly ducking him.

Sour g****s man that's all it is from you excuse laden Floyd Boys. Manny's willingness to make fights with the worst style mismatches may not have given him a perfect record but given him a respect you Floyd boys can't come up with the excuses to reverse.

We keep telling you guys all Floyd had to do was beat the best guys In their prime man.

Youre delusional it was no way fair and square, Oscar was drained to fck there is no denying that, and Margarito was chosen as a bogus gimme paper title by Arum, I don't blame Manny himself at all he did his part the best he could, his management was brilliant and stacked the odds into Manny's favour in a very big way, I know what the moves were and how they hoodwinked the average fan. Oscars own ego allowed it to happen, he thought that midget cant beat me and the weight was a trap he fell into head first, he had not made 147 for over 10 yrs and had trouble with Steve Forbes at 150lbs, Roach said he didn't even make the 150lbs and they nudged the scales, when weight gets you in boxing youre messed right up, and for Manny to outweigh Oscar on fight night was proof the weight killed Oscar, you dont come back from that in 30hrs and he didn't he gained 2lbs instead of 20, Oscar was totally wrecked before the bell sounded that's so obvious.

And I know Manny is an ATG they just built him up higher than he really was with slick matchmaking because the average fan doesn't understand the fine detail going into a big fight they just see one guy beat another they dont give a fck why, its always he was not good enough and my guy was just that much better, Im a realist and Ive been involved and followed boxing for over 50 yrs.