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  • #21
    Very simple
    Joe , not this version of you will get mentioned for this version of AJ
    Quite simple actually

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    • #22
      Originally posted by -Kev- View Post

      I disagree, AJ is far from a coward.

      He has fought some guys when it mattered, when they were still top guys.

      As a Wilder fan, I will admit AJ wanted Wilder but Wilder wanted 50-50 without having proved himself as a PPV seller yet. So he kind of priced himself out.

      With Fury, we all know what happened there. Fight was gonna happen, Wilder executed his rematch clause for the trilogy. Took Fury to court to stop the AJ fight.

      Otherwise, AJ has fought the guys he was supposed to fight when he was supposed to fight them. From Wlad to Parker, to Whyte and Usyk, Ruiz. He fought some live dogs in Martin, Breazale. AJ put his 0 on the line vs other guys with 0’s.

      It is 100%, totally unfair to call him a coward. And btw I think Fury, Wilder and Joyce all KO him. If he’s really a coward he should steer clear of those 3. But he ain’t no coward, he’ll fight either Fury or Wilder after a tuneup.
      Where is that ambition now? He humiliated himself in the Usyk rematch, publically stated he is ducking Fury, and is now ducking the top fighters in Wallin and Joyce.

      A zero means nothing. AJ fought a bunch of old men and hyped up gatekeepers. His only decent wins are Wlad and Parker. Now that AJ has been embarrassed by Usyk he has shown what many already knew, that he is a coward.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by SN!PER View Post
        Juggernaut should be trying everything in his power to get a fight with either AJ or Wilder.

        Fury is a terrible style match-up as he knows how to box and use movement to frustrate the hell out of Joyce.
        If Fury ducks the Usyk fight, Joyce is the guy he has been chirping about. It's obvious the Ox is the big UK fight Fury wants if it isn't AJ

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        • #24
          Originally posted by bullydean View Post

          When you say "I'll fight anyone" but then duck the top fighters to get a payday you're going to get ridiculed.
          That's literally why Crawford got mocked.

          The reason Fury gets away with it is because everyone knows he's full of bs. You won't know if Fury keeps his promise until he's in the ring.

          AJ has fanboys and has gotten praise for years for "being the top dog" yet he has shown that he is a coward.
          Joshua has just fought Usyk twice back to back 'Usyk is WBO, WBA, IBF & IBO World Heavyweight Champion'.

          How come a fighter like Joyce is going after Joshua? He should be going after Fury or Uysk?

          Joshua is under no obligation to face Joyce next.

          Joshua is a contender, and has lost his last two fights.

          Matching Joshua against Wilder or Joyce in his first comeback fight? Is not good match making.

          You know this, everyone knows this. The people who want Joshua to take on this big fights straight away, just want to see him be beaten as soon as possibly.

          Fury has just fought Chisora, even if he did not face Chisora 'He could of chosen a better more higher level fighter, but he did not'.

          Fury's hardcore fans, you can tell? That they don't really believe Fury is as good as they make out. Because they make excuses, or will be content with Fury fighting at domestic to high end European level.

          On some level, they know Fury is not miles ahead in ability than all these other Heavyweights.

          But Fury is at a point now in his career, were there is a lot of pressure for him to consistently make the big fights.

          Note: Joshua is now a contender, he has no world titles. He can do what he wants, he can make whatever fights he wants. Joshua and team match room can charter their course to a potential heavyweight title assault, with more guile and creativity now? Then when they were World Champions etc.

          Wallin is barely a world level fighter, I am not sure why people keep mentioning him. Wallin has really beaten no top fighters.

          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 01-06-2023, 11:54 AM.

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          • #25
            Wilder seems to be dithering against who he wants to fight next. WIlder v Ruiz is the natural next fight, but is wilder waiting for Usyk v fury winner, or is wilder waiting to fight Josh, instead of Ruiz.? WIlder could fight Joyce, but i dont think Joyce wants Wilder also.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by SN!PER View Post
              Juggernaut should be trying everything in his power to get a fight with either AJ or Wilder.

              Fury is a terrible style match-up as he knows how to box and use movement to frustrate the hell out of Joyce.
              Fury credits Joyce for his reason to last with Wilder the first time and didn’t get the better of him in any sparring sessions,if he’s making excuses about Joyce’s Instagram followers being to low to fight as a reason for Chisora you know as well as I do Fury knows it’s not an easy fight . Lol

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              • #27
                this dudes chin in something else

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                  Joshua has just fought Usyk twice back to back 'Usyk is WBO, WBA, IBF & IBO World Heavyweight Champion'.

                  How come a fighter like Joyce is going after Joshua? He should be going after Fury or Uysk?

                  Joshua is under no obligation to face Joyce next.

                  Joshua is a contender, and has lost his last two fights.

                  Matching Joshua against Wilder or Joyce in his first comeback fight? Is not good match making.

                  You know this, everyone knows this. The people who want Joshua to take on this big fights straight away, just want to see him be beaten as soon as possibly.

                  Fury has just fought Chisora, even if he did not face Chisora 'He could of chosen a better more higher level fighter, but he did not'.

                  Fury's hardcore fans, you can tell? That they don't really believe Fury is as good as they make out. Because they make excuses, or will be content with Fury fighting at domestic to high end European level.

                  On some level, they know Fury is not miles ahead in ability than all these other Heavyweights.

                  But Fury is at a point now in his career, were there is a lot of pressure for him to consistently make the big fights.

                  Note: Joshua is now a contender, he has no world titles. He can do what he wants, he can make whatever fights he wants. Joshua and team match room can charter their course to a potential heavyweight title assault, with more guile and creativity now? Then when they were World Champions etc.

                  Wallin is barely a world level fighter, I am not sure why people keep mentioning him. Wallin has really beaten no top fighters.
                  That's fine but he shouldn't be saying "I'll fight anyone!" and then turn down every top contender.
                  Fighting Usyk 2 times isn't a great feat when it was one sided and AJ's reaction after the fight.

                  In the end we didn't see a great boxer who takes on all challengers but instead a deluded puncher who believed his own hype.

                  We all know he's going to fight someone like Charr or the most probable person, Whyte.
                  There's no need to try and act sneaky to make people think AJ will fight a top guy. It doesn't help their pockets and it definitely won't help AJ's psyche.

                  It all back fired which is why Hearn is now openly stating that AJ is ruined and needs multiple confidence boosters.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by bullydean View Post

                    That's fine but he shouldn't be saying "I'll fight anyone!" and then turn down every top contender.
                    Fighting Usyk 2 times isn't a great feat when it was one sided and AJ's reaction after the fight.

                    In the end we didn't see a great boxer who takes on all challengers but instead a deluded puncher who believed his own hype.

                    We all know he's going to fight someone like Charr or the most probable person, Whyte.
                    There's no need to try and act sneaky to make people think AJ will fight a top guy. It doesn't help their pockets and it definitely won't help AJ's psyche.

                    It all back fired which is why Hearn is now openly stating that AJ is ruined and needs multiple confidence boosters.
                    None of the fights were one sided. Especially not the second fight. At no point were the commentators pleading with the referree to stop the fight.

                    During the aftermath of the fight, it was acknowledged that Joshua was beat 'But he made the fights quite competitive'.

                    Joshua has been fighting at world to elite level since his 17th -18th professional fight. Joshua is more experienced at World & Elite level than Tyson Fury.

                    We don't know yet who he is going to fight next. But the fact remains is that he is now a contender 'Joshua has not got a title'.

                    Joshua is not going to fight a fighter at Charr's level, Hearn has stated that he wants to return with a top-15 fighter.

                    Joshua even now as contender, after two loses. I still expect him to return at a pretty good level, World level to High End European at the worst.

                    Joshua's next fight will be at a higher level than Tyson Fury's last fight, I have always been adamant of this etc.

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                    • #30
                      I think joyce beats aj at this point but to be fair why would joyce expect to be mentioned for aj when he fights for a rival promotion

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