Comments Thread For: Joe Joyce: Not Surprised My Name is Not Mentioned as Possible Foe For Joshua

[pollywog]

I'm suddenly craving a Joyce vs. Wilder fight.

We need to see what happens when Joe gets hit with that right!

I'm more interested in seeing Wilder's reaction when he hits Joyce with it and Big Jugs just walks through it to land his own clubbing blows.

If Fury could take windmills power and recover, I'm sure Joyce, with the better set of whiskers, can too.

[bullydean]

Wallin vs Joshua is a crap fight mate. Match Making wise, there are by far better fights out there for Joshua.

This is the professional game, which is not only a sport 'It is also show business'.

Whyte vs Joshua, Ruiz Junior vs Joshua III these are all better fights. And bigger events than Wallin vs Joshua.

Joshua did not duck Fury, how long has the negotiations been going on now with Fury & Usyk? Looks like it has been longer than 2-3 weeks.

The way team Fury and Warren dealt with Joshua during those negotiations was quite unprofessional. You don't give somebody of Joshua's resume and standard ultimatums 'You let the negotiations play out'.

But in saying that? I will admit, and be honest. I think Joshua still should of fought Fury, even if he did not get quite the deal he wanted. Just by taking the fight, he would of gained masses of credit 'But this did not happen due to the complications the negotiations'.

You are criticizing Joshua for talking. The number 1 Heavyweight in the sport, who talks the most is Tyson Fury. He is also the least experienced Champion at World & Elite level and has not faced 90% of the fighters he claims cannot beat him. Fury has not faced Joyce, Fury has not done a deal with Usyk, Fury definitely made it extremely difficult to make the fight with Joshua.

Tyson Fury does not take on all comers as a champion.

AJ vs Whyte was good match making years ago before Whyte was getting knocked out every other fight.
Now it's a easy tune up where we will likely see AJ destroy Whyte even worse than the first fight.
AJ vs Wallin has a unknown outcome. Will Wallin outbox AJ or will AJ KO Wallin? Maybe AJ will outbox Wallin?
Same for Joyce. They are unknown fights which make things exciting.
Ruiz ain't happening because of Wilder so that's why I never mentioned Ruiz.

Hearn came out and said he called off negotiations because AJ isn't ready for Fury. That's a duck.

As I said in my first comments. Fury gets a pass from most people because everyone, including Fury himself, know he's full of crap. We know Fury is all talk until he's in the ring with his opponent. I'm positive if Fury beats Usyk 2 times in a row he will not fight Joyce even though he said he would. Maybe after 2 years and another retirement but nobody believes Fury.
The reason Fury still gets some respect is because when he does follow through he wins and gets out. He doesn't make a big deal out of it and if a belt is involved Fury seems to follow through.
That's the difference.

[PRINCEKOOL]

AJ vs Whyte was good match making years ago before Whyte was getting knocked out every other fight.
Now it's a easy tune up where we will likely see AJ destroy Whyte even worse than the first fight.
AJ vs Wallin has a unknown outcome. Will Wallin outbox AJ or will AJ KO Wallin? Maybe AJ will outbox Wallin?
Same for Joyce. They are unknown fights which make things exciting.
Ruiz ain't happening because of Wilder so that's why I never mentioned Ruiz.

Hearn came out and said he called off negotiations because AJ isn't ready for Fury. That's a duck.

As I said in my first comments. Fury gets a pass from most people because everyone, including Fury himself, know he's full of crap. We know Fury is all talk until he's in the ring with his opponent. I'm positive if Fury beats Usyk 2 times in a row he will not fight Joyce even though he said he would. Maybe after 2 years and another retirement but nobody believes Fury.
The reason Fury still gets some respect is because when he does follow through he wins and gets out. He doesn't make a big deal out of it and if a belt is involved Fury seems to follow through.
That's the difference.

Good Match Making, does not necessarily mean the fight has to be competitive.

Chisora vs Fury III, was really good match making for Fury 'Business wise'.

Whyte vs Joshua II, is good match making business wise. But unlike Chisora vs Fury III, Whyte vs Joshua II could potentially be competitive.

Me personally? I think Joshua beats Whyte more impressively than Fury 'Way more'. But I am sure there will be other people who disagree.

That is why Whyte vs Joshua II, is good match making and a bigger event than Chisora vs Fury III.

Wallin vs Joshua is not good match making, there is no story or theme in the match up.

This is the professional game mate, fights have to make sense. And I am not even talking about business.

There needs to be theme, marketability, a story which will intrigue the boxing fans.

Wallin vs Joshua is just not a interesting fight. Wallin is more of a interesting fight for Tyson Fury etc.