Comments Thread For: Shakur Stevenson Believes That Vasiliy Lomachenko Is Limited In Skills

[eco1]

Amen. Remember Money May wouldn't let Tank anywhere near Loma and flat out admitted it? Now he's old, 2 weight classes above, (which to be fair is not their fault, that's on Loma) and coming off war....real f'n war....and now everyone gotta talk tough. I've been watching boxing for 42 years, and I boxed for 4 years, and did marital arts for 8 years, and Loma is the most skilled fighter I've ever seen, and what I loved is that he could've easily boxed people's socks off defensively but chose to be aggressive and relentless and pound the soul out of all those dudes. Shakur beat a physically out atched Valdez, I didn't see such "great skill" just a very good fighter beating a guy who was tailor made for him. He may prove special down the road but he hasn't proven anything yet IMO, other than a big mouth and a criminal punk mindset.

I agree. Loma is a talent and have been watching this thing called boxing since I was probably a kid, And that was when I watched Ali-Foreman and all of those guys.

Loma is special, not well managed, but special.

[shakedaddy]

Wasn’t small when people were creaming over the Linares & Campbell wins and he was P4P #1/2.
Time exposes all and Linares and Campbell were nothing to hit home about. 135 was weak back then..The current crop of lightweights are much better. Linares, Campbell, Pedraza, Commey were all big guys - just as big as Haney and bigger than Shakur. All I’m hearing is excuses.. Loma isn’t no Pac or Floyd. Never was and never will be

So true. He's better than both of them!

[F l i c k e r]

Vasyl isn't limited. But he is a borderline head hunter. Nearly pure straight to the head until an opponent is overwhelmed and then he starts getting cute with his punch selection.

The only thing Shakur has going for him vs Lomachenko is his size advantage. Bigger guy, longer reach, advantages.

Otherwise, there's nothing else. He keeps thinking actual competition is sweet and he'll end up like Broner sooner than later.

He's not Floyd. Don't write checks you can't really cash.

[shakedaddy]

Most skilled fighter you’ve ever seen? Pagahah.

Pernell Whittaker
Floyd Mayweather
Roy Jones

+ others

All mustve competed in another sport. Shakur would’ve beaten Loma at 130 and would beat him at 135 any day of the week.

I saw them all. Pernell was phenomenally skilled, but more so defensively. Maybe that was by choice, but he chose to fight that way. I never bought into the the idea that the sweet science = "art of hitting and not getting hit". Indirectly it's part of it, but it's only a tool/methodology to accomplish the objective. What is the objective? The entire goal of a boxing match, since the beginning of time, is to knock your opponent out, period. Rounds, subjective scoring, and decisions were only implemented b/c if not, fighters would die, and/or 40 round fights between evenly matched weren't practical. So yes, Mayweather is/was an absolutely gorgeous fighter, as was Pernell, no doubt about it, and my thoughts on Loma aren't in any way disparaging to them. Roy? He was on another level athletically, maybe than anyone else ever - but as soon as that went away he was an average fighter at best; his actual boxing skills weren't really up to snuff, so when his insane athletic advantage was gone it spelled total doom. Loma is gifted physically, but his actual boxing skills as well as mentality to go for the finish and not play it safe make him the most impressive fighter I've ever seen.

[Lance98]

He is right. Loma is very overrated skills wise. He is not that special.

[joseph5620]

It's only certain Americans who can't root for people unless they look like them. Unfortunately, this forum is littered with them.

Some of those "certain" Americans will root against American fighters like Spence, Crawford, Wilder, Stevenson, Haney, or Ennis. But root for non American fighters like Lomachenko, Usyk, Canelo, and Fury. So you're right. The forum is littered with them.

[ThatDude44]

God forbid someone isn't on Loma's jock like ESPN and Teddy Atlas. How dare Shakur go against the agenda !

[hhh1200]

I like how some of the young fighters want to fight and are making waves. Amazing how people forgot some of the nonsense we have had to listen to this past generation

Wilder - Good things come to those who wait, Slave contract, baby bottles
Canelo - i fight for pride not belts but fight a UK lame for the belt
Keef - I'm not a journeyman, 600-day layoffs
Spence - Why fight you for undisputed when i can fight the easy fights?
Charlo - 10 yr feud with a nobody he can't fight for 10 million with a guaranteed rematch.
Fury - drugs, mental illness, peds, jumping fences at 400 lbs and twisting his ankle

And people are crying around Shakur aggressively going for fights.

[MONGOOSE66]

*17-2, soon to be 17-3.

What an unbelievable prediction. What part of old don’t you get?

[Rebelrbg]

396 amateur wins with 1 loss that he avenged twice. 2 gold metals. Jesus he hating and alotta yall too. Imagine winning 396 out of 397 fights like bruhh

I believe that you're overlooking one word that you stated, AMATEUR, its completely different from the professional level, but still impressive. Its less taxing on the body, less rounds, no 'to the death ' fights, big gloves and headgear, different style of fighting, more for points than damage, and definitely a different level of opponents. Loma was older and more experienced than most fighters in the amateurs after his first 200 fights, yet he stayed for almost 200 more. After he became a professional, 17-2, looks much different than 396-1.