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  • hhh1200
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    #121
    Originally posted by Oregonian
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    The Trump Whataboutism syndrome is strong.

    I don’t disagree with you. Spence should not fight Thurman. He should be forced to fight Boots or vacate the belt. Period. I do not have undying or blind loyalty towards Spence.

    Can you say the same for Crawford? Crawford should not be fighting Avanesyan or Brook or Khan.

    Boots, Ortiz or Spence are the fights Crawford should be chasing.
    Who is Usyk chasing? I guess it's DDD or Joyce. No, it's Top Rank's Big Baby. Ops, I forgot he is going after his 2nd undisputed but Crawford shouldnt so he can chase prospects who wont even stay in the WBO rankings to fight him. Please make sense of our Boots and Ortiz logic.

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    • Combat Talk Radio
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      #122
      Originally posted by Jsmooth9876

      Right, so you want him to take a worse deal than Ugas did who was basically a nobody. We are getting nowhere here, In my mind he deserves 60-40 all day and a cut of PPV and in yours he should fight for peanuts I guess... The fight is not happening anyway so why bother wasting our time here.
      Ugas was fresh off soundly beating Pacquiao. Who Crawford himself said was "The Man".

      Crawford said he was #1 because he "Beat The Man That Beat The Man".

      NSB said he didn't, because Horn robbed Manny.

      Ugas straight up dominated Pacquiao. Spence stopped Ugas.

      SO...if you "Beat The Man That Beat The Man" to become #1, but Horn apparently didn't beat "The Man", that means Spence MUST be #1 by Crawford's own criteria, since Ugas did beat "The Man".

      Do you understand now why Crawford is an idiot and doesn't understand when he says these things, he's exposing his terrible resume which is harming his negotiation power. He must fully accept B-Side.
      Last edited by Combat Talk Radio; 01-06-2023, 07:34 AM.

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        #123
        Originally posted by Oregonian
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        Hence my follow up question; why not fight Boots? Why fight nondescript guys like Khan, Brook, Avanesyan? Next he’ll probably fight Ugas or Broner?
        Let’s leave Spence out of that equation.
        Because Crawford wants to fight Spence for undisputed. He's being denied that opportunity because Spence's team want leverage and refuse to accept the $25 million guarantee + 20% backend offer on the table.

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          #124
          Originally posted by davefromvancouv

          Because Crawford wants to fight Spence for undisputed. He's being denied that opportunity because Spence's team want leverage and refuse to accept the $25 million guarantee + 20% backend offer on the table.
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          Man! You are still evading the question. So I’ll humor you some more.
          I agree with everything you say about Spence.
          Why didn’t Crawford go after Boots? Why waste time with Avanesyan?

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            #125
            Originally posted by Oregonian
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            Man! You are still evading the question. So I’ll humor you some more.
            I agree with everything you say about Spence.
            Why didn’t Crawford go after Boots? Why waste time with Avanesyan?
            I don't know. Was Boots available? Did Boots want to fight Crawford? Was Boots locked into a PBC contract to fight in January? Could BLK Prime afford to pay Boots and keep the $10 million guarantee for Crawford?

            The only thing I know is that Crawford wanted to fight in 2022, the fight with Spence wasn't going to happen in 2022, they were not giving him a guarantee, they were not being transparent and Crawford offered Spence $25 million plus 20% backend to fight in 2022.

            Crawford fought in 2022 and the offer is still available for Spence to fight when they actually planned to fight (in 2023). Spence even had to cancel his interim fight with Thurman because he got into another car accident (almost like a sign to stop f#&$king around). Spence's team won't take it because they will lose all the leverage they HOPED they'd have fighting Mikey Garcia and collecting the other 3 belts.

            When all along, they could have just fought Crawford for legacy. But Spence might have been beaten badly. Hence the stalling and the games...

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              #126
              Originally posted by Oregonian
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              The Trump Whataboutism syndrome is strong.

              I don’t disagree with you. Spence should not fight Thurman. He should be forced to fight Boots or vacate the belt. Period. I do not have undying or blind loyalty towards Spence.

              Can you say the same for Crawford? Crawford should not be fighting Avanesyan or Brook or Khan.

              Boots, Ortiz or Spence are the fights Crawford should be chasing.
              This mf'er brought Trump into a boxing conversation lollololol. You have issues

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              • Oregonian
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                #127
                Originally posted by davefromvancouv

                I don't know. Was Boots available? Did Boots want to fight Crawford? Was Boots locked into a PBC contract to fight in January? Could BLK Prime afford to pay Boots and keep the $10 million guarantee for Crawford?

                The only thing I know is that Crawford wanted to fight in 2022, the fight with Spence wasn't going to happen in 2022, they were not giving him a guarantee, they were not being transparent and Crawford offered Spence $25 million plus 20% backend to fight in 2022.

                Crawford fought in 2022 and the offer is still available for Spence to fight when they actually planned to fight (in 2023). Spence even had to cancel his interim fight with Thurman because he got into another car accident (almost like a sign to stop f#&$king around). Spence's team won't take it because they will lose all the leverage they HOPED they'd have fighting Mikey Garcia and collecting the other 3 belts.

                When all along, they could have just fought Crawford for legacy. But Spence might have been beaten badly. Hence the stalling and the games...
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                I’m not sure why you keep bringing Spence into this. I’ve already told you that I agree with you. In fact, I’m going to go ahead and say Spence is useless, overrated, pathetic and a lying slime ball. Hopefully you don’t bring him up again.

                Let’s stick with Boots. If you are truly a boxing fan who follows the sport then you would know that Boots already said he wanted Crawford. Boots also questioned the logic of choosing Avanesyan who is ranked well below Boots and unknown.
                Boots said he would have accepted the same money given to Avanesyan.
                Lastly, Boots was available. He has said in multiple interviews that he was going to wait on the winner of Crawford-Spence because he understands the magnitude of that fight. It’s the reason he did not petition the sanctioning bodies to force the two guys to fight him.

                Please Spence out of this. It seems you are desperately trying to justify or defend the actions of Crawford.

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                • Oregonian
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Jsmooth9876

                  This mf'er brought Trump into a boxing conversation lollololol. You have issues
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                  If you just took a second from sniffing warthog’s anuses then you’d get the context of Whataboutism. Unless you like them warthog’s anuses so much then I guess you are forgiven.

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                  • Jsmooth9876
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Oregonian
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                    If you just took a second from sniffing warthog’s anuses then you’d get the context of Whataboutism. Unless you like them warthog’s anuses so much then I guess you are forgiven.
                    You brought up Trump in a boxing conversation. You're a loser.

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                    • Oregonian
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Jsmooth9876

                      You brought up Trump in a boxing conversation. You're a loser.
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                      So you are admitting that you are an anus sniffing Neanderthal? Oh wow! You are brave! I’ve never met anyone who admits to that
                      sniff sniff

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