Comments Thread For: Derrick James Says Crawford Has 'Uneducated Perspective' of Himself in Spence Fight

[Combat Talk Radio]

Tell me what the purse split was between Spence and Ugas...............
Then come back and try to tell me Spence should be getting like 70-30 against Crawford lol...
You guys are just delusional. The fight will never happen because they have people who think like you in that camp.

"At The End Of The Day" given a COMMON opponent, Spence drew nearly 3x the buys.

That means Crawford isn't getting 50-50. He's also unlikely to get 60-40.

So...B-Side should accept WHATEVER without complaining, go in there and prove what you say, then he can demand whatever from whoever (else).

[sicko]

Coach Should feel this way when talking about someone fighting his fighter and also Bud should feel the way he feels and should be confident in himself as well

Bottom Line...they need to fight regardless if it is 147, 154 or hell fight twice at each Division both 147 and 154 so nobody can say they was drained or any of that

Always maintain respect for both fighters in the ring so I don't take sides in none of this...Last fighter I was emotionally attacked to was the Late Great Marvin Hagler when I was just a kid but as a Grown Men, no I'm not attached to any of these guys like that I just want to see great fights regardless who wins

at this point either fight each other or F^CK OFF, get out of the way let Boots, Speedy, Stanionis, Vergil and all these other guys fight for Vacant Belts then Unify the show must go on with or without Spence and Bud, they not Mayweather and Pacquiao so I don't even care anymore and I've never thought this was the Mega fight that Boxing Fans claim it is, not even close but regardless they should fight

Spence was Promoted better but Bud Road was tougher as far as making a name for himself, wasn't the Amateur Blue Chip, wasn't the Olympian, Bud was basically unsigned for a long time up until Mikey Garcia and Timothy Bradley sparred him and then I think it was Mikey who mentioned him to Cameron Dunkin at the time so he just never had the Luxury of getting the right Treatment or Representation IMO

[elfag]

Anyone else skim read these s*** articles from these trainers promoters experts etc? Bud just made $10m fighting a fight he only made because he was getting f***ed around my Haymon and PBC. They wanna get serious get serious and make it happen f***.

I cant believe they paid him $10 million, there are only like 50k PPV if that, they HAD to have LOST MONEY.

these guys will never fight if you pay them 10 million to fight bums, who is covering these massive losses?

[Oregonian]

Nah. Just watching the actions of both and using critical thinking. The Spence side is talking money and leverage. Crawford is talking about sacrifice and legacy.

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Didn’t Crawford scuttle the fight because of “transparency” around money?
Also, since we are being fair to both, how is Crawford’s legacy looking at 147? At this point, Miguel Cotto, Mosley, and Oscar have way better resumes than him.
Spence has three belts. That’s as big a deal as Crawford unifying the 140 Ibs division. All that’s left is a historical unification at 147.

And if that fight doesn’t happen, Crawford has to fight Boots. Not the overmatched guys he keeps fighting.

[davefromvancouv]

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Didn’t Crawford scuttle the fight because of “transparency” around money?
Also, since we are being fair to both, how is Crawford’s legacy looking at 147? At this point, Miguel Cotto, Mosley, and Oscar have way better resumes than him.
Spence has three belts. That’s as big a deal as Crawford unifying the 140 Ibs division. All that’s left is a historical unification at 147.

And if that fight doesn’t happen, Crawford has to fight Boots. Not the overmatched guys he keeps fighting.

Like I said.
It's all about leverage, not legacy, with Spence's team.

[hhh1200]

Correct - and Derrick already explained this in simple terms some months ago.

Crawford / Porter drew 125k buys.

Spence / Porter was over 350k buys.

Say you round up, so 130k buys for Crawford. Same opponent.

Spence drew almost near 3x the buys.

To paraphrase James:

"Now, we ain't saying we're should get 3x the money, but it damn sure ain't going to be 50-50 or 60-40."

i'm assuming keef vs spence will be an 80/20 split or 70/30? Like Keef is going to fly with that for his retirement check? both Spence and Porter are making a $2 million base for Saturday's fight,

Crawford is supposed to take no guaranteed money. This is joke now! They don't want the fight.

[Jsmooth9876]

"At The End Of The Day" given a COMMON opponent, Spence drew nearly 3x the buys.

That means Crawford isn't getting 50-50. He's also unlikely to get 60-40.

So...B-Side should accept WHATEVER without complaining, go in there and prove what you say, then he can demand whatever from whoever (else).

Right, so you want him to take a worse deal than Ugas did who was basically a nobody. We are getting nowhere here, In my mind he deserves 60-40 all day and a cut of PPV and in yours he should fight for peanuts I guess... The fight is not happening anyway so why bother wasting our time here.

[Jsmooth9876]

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Didn’t Crawford scuttle the fight because of “transparency” around money?
Also, since we are being fair to both, how is Crawford’s legacy looking at 147? At this point, Miguel Cotto, Mosley, and Oscar have way better resumes than him.
Spence has three belts. That’s as big a deal as Crawford unifying the 140 Ibs division. All that’s left is a historical unification at 147.

And if that fight doesn’t happen, Crawford has to fight Boots. Not the overmatched guys he keeps fighting.

Ah the old Crawford has to fight Boots even though Boots has been #1 with the IBF for a minute now and they for some reason have let Spence not fight a mandatory for years. Here's an idea, how about Spence fight Boots instead of a guy who hasn't won a meaningful fight in years in Thurman which we all know is coming next.

[Oregonian]

Like I said.
It's all about leverage, not legacy, with Spence's team.

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Hence my follow up question; why not fight Boots? Why fight nondescript guys like Khan, Brook, Avanesyan? Next he’ll probably fight Ugas or Broner?
Let’s leave Spence out of that equation.

[Oregonian]

Ah the old Crawford has to fight Boots even though Boots has been #1 with the IBF for a minute now and they for some reason have let Spence not fight a mandatory for years. Here's an idea, how about Spence fight Boots instead of a guy who hasn't won a meaningful fight in years in Thurman which we all know is coming next.

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The Trump Whataboutism syndrome is strong.

I don’t disagree with you. Spence should not fight Thurman. He should be forced to fight Boots or vacate the belt. Period. I do not have undying or blind loyalty towards Spence.

Can you say the same for Crawford? Crawford should not be fighting Avanesyan or Brook or Khan.

Boots, Ortiz or Spence are the fights Crawford should be chasing.