Comments Thread For: Spence On Stanionis vs. Ortiz: "That's A 50-50 Fight"

[4truth]

Ortiz could probably win throwing almost nothing but his jab. He might even get a stoppage.

[_original_]

Is this fight really happening? Ortiz by late stoppage in a hard fought battle.

[Bronx2245]

A little off topic, but id like to see Jalolev fight anybody of note. Why is he mia? He already had pro fights before taking gold, and he's huge. Last fight was a joke.

Probellum is starting off very poorly, and they have talent! Prograis, Conwell, and Jalolov all need exposure, and Probellum doesn't have a network to give it to them! It's going to be tough until they make a deal with a network like SHO, ESPN, or DAZN!

[Rebelrbg]

At least compared to Stanionis he actually knocked out those mid-tier fighters compared to:

-Going the distance against an over the hill Dulorme (25-4-1) via UD who never won against anyone of note.
-Headbutting Grandpa Collazo (39-8-1) onto a NC who was 41 years old and was coming off from a loss to Abdukakhorov.
-Barely scrapping a split decision win against Butaev (14-0) whose biggest achievement is beating a pillow fisted Jamal James and lost to Bes*****.

Butaev is a good fighter that wouldn't be a sure win for Virgil or anyone on their current level.

[hhh1200]

So, please tell me what Crawford has been doing with his one belt since beating the GREAT Jeff Horn? Big biases detected.

7-0-7 kos. the 2 top prospects, ortiz and ennis, refuse to submit petitions to challenge him, spence and haymon tried to sideline him longer than broner (18 months no fight and then additional 9 months before he can get a fight). i think he is doing well and was smart enough to get out of the pbc dust pile and get himself a 10 million fight which covered his 2 TR 3.5 million guarantees after 13 months.

the crawford propaganda is getting old and holds no weight.

[Rebelrbg]

7-0-7 kos. the 2 top prospects, ortiz and ennis, refuse to submit petitions to challenge him, spence and haymon tried to sideline him longer than broner (18 months no fight and then additional 9 months before he can get a fight). i think he is doing well and was smart enough to get out of the pbc dust pile and get himself a 10 million fight which covered his 2 TR 3.5 million guarantees after 13 months.

the crawford propaganda is getting old and holds no weight.

That's bullshxt Crawford apologists rhetoric and you know it. This is not propaganda against Bud, its just a factual observation of what he's been doing. You state 7-0 7KOs, as if he deserves a cookie. He knocked out 6 mid-tier fighters and a retiring Porter. He's been consistently beating up opponents beneath the level of deserving credit and asking for big money in exchange for it. He and Broner have that in common, but AB actually had the balls to fight Pacquiao, unlike Bud when he had plenty of opportunities.

You state that the top contenders won't submit petitions for their mandatory, guess what, they shouldn't have to. Did Avanesyen submit a petition? He wasn't even ranked high enough to do so, but Crawford CHOSE him to fight for 10 million. Do you see the succulent cherry picking pattern, and might I add for big bucks? Bud could have chose any one of the top contenders in Boots, Ortiz, Stanionis, etc. but he chose an opponent he knew would be easy work, just as he has his entire career at 147.

You stated that PBC tried to sideline him, and with that I know that you are definitely a Bud apologist. Spence fought Ugas for his strap in April. The last time Crawford fought before Avanesyen was in November of 2021!!! What the hell was he doing, besides sitting on his as waiting for an easy check to fall in his lap, for the six months between November and April. Those top contenders were all out there and available, why didn't he choose one of them? Boots and Virgil only fought once this year, and I'm sure a Crawford fight would have overruled anything they had on the agenda.
Meanwhile, Errol collected his third belt, in a meaningful CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT, you see the difference; then proceeded to call out Bud for his. We all know what Crawford chose to do by the pattern that he's established; that's right, pick that cherry and collect that bread from whatever idiot that is willing to pay.

[ShoulderRoll]

i know he's Balts, he's probably closer to polish than scandinavian, but i was referring to geographical more then politico-economic meaning of the term, to me Baltic Sea is way colder then Gulf of Mexico

Maybe the cold tends to produce stiff, emotionless robots. Did you ever think about that?

[hhh1200]

That's bullshxt Crawford apologists rhetoric and you know it. This is not propaganda against Bud, its just a factual observation of what he's been doing. You state 7-0 7KOs, as if he deserves a cookie. He knocked out 6 mid-tier fighters and a retiring Porter. He's been consistently beating up opponents beneath the level of deserving credit and asking for big money in exchange for it. He and Broner have that in common, but AB actually had the balls to fight Pacquiao, unlike Bud when he had plenty of opportunities.

You state that the top contenders won't submit petitions for their mandatory, guess what, they shouldn't have to. Did Avanesyen submit a petition? He wasn't even ranked high enough to do so, but Crawford CHOSE him to fight for 10 million. Do you see the succulent cherry picking pattern, and might I add for big bucks? Bud could have chose any one of the top contenders in Boots, Ortiz, Stanionis, etc. but he chose an opponent he knew would be easy work, just as he has his entire career at 147.

You stated that PBC tried to sideline him, and with that I know that you are definitely a Bud apologist. Spence fought Ugas for his strap in April. The last time Crawford fought before Avanesyen was in November of 2021!!! What the hell was he doing, besides sitting on his as waiting for an easy check to fall in his lap, for the six months between November and April. Those top contenders were all out there and available, why didn't he choose one of them? Boots and Virgil only fought once this year, and I'm sure a Crawford fight would have overruled anything they had on the agenda.
Meanwhile, Errol collected his third belt, in a meaningful CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT, you see the difference; then proceeded to call out Bud for his. We all know what Crawford chose to do by the pattern that he's established; that's right, pick that cherry and collect that bread from whatever idiot that is willing to pay.

This is long. Submit it to 78 and TrillBoxing.

[Rebelrbg]

This is long. Submit it to 78 and TrillBoxing.

Never mind, I thought that you were interested in facts over bullshxt.

[Dakuwaqa]

Good fight would love to see it