Roy Jones Jr. and Antonio Tarver goes off on Canelo for cherrypicking opponents: "Bivol was a cherrypick gone wrong!"

[WBC WBA IBF]

- - Only harder fight of all 168-175 weight fighters was Beter, so it would appear U dinglecherry B found dangling in U derriere ripening 4 U harvest.

Canelo was offered more money to fight Charlo and more money to fight Benavidez than he was offered to fight Bivol. I believe Bivol was the toughest fight of the three, but Canelo's team thought Bivol was the easiest fight of the three, which is why they took less money to face Bivol.

It was clearly a cherry pick gone wrong.

[QueensburyRules]

Canelo was offered more money to fight Charlo and more money to fight Benavidez than he was offered to fight Bivol. I believe Bivol was the toughest fight of the three, but Canelo's team thought Bivol was the easiest fight of the three, which is why they took less money to face Bivol.

It was clearly a cherry pick gone wrong.

- - Canelo makes his $$$ no matter who he fights. A Charlene sista ain't a fight for a Man to take, and Benavidez would be a good fight and gets made down the line, but Canelo one step at a time takes Bivol whereupon he makes Beter into a mega fight.

Not a cherry pick when Bivol beats Bena and Charlene both on the same night.

ABC WBC WBA IBF XYZ...What grade U in now?

[Oracle01]

Benavidez is 'eye test'. He's beaten nobody that matters.

By that logic, Saunders would have been a favorite against Canelo, but he wasn't. You know why?

Saunders had NO advantage.

Benavidez has one advantage - work rate.

Golovkin had work rate in two of three fights and still couldn't convince three judges he was truly better than Canelo.

Canelo was only considered favorite because of what he was EXPECTED to do that he didn't do. It happens.

When Manny fought Horn, he was EXPECTED to throw over a thousand punches and overwhelm The Hornet. He failed - the judges weren't sold he was better.

Same with Mayweather - Manny was EXPECTED to overwhelm Floyd. Instead, the judges watched him fight tentatively after eating jabs.

Bum****a was EXPECTED to KO Steve Rolls. He failed.

Broner was EXPECTED to at least outbox Santiago. He failed.

Cobbs was EXPECTED to KO Rocha. He failed.

Mikey was EXPECTED to deal with Sandor Martin. He failed.

Teo was EXPECTED to KO Kambosos. He failed.

Expectation is where the thought of "favorites" comes from. If the fighter doesn't show up, it is what it is.

By what logic would saunder be a favourate vs canelo? He is a mediocre fighter at best with zero weapons other than decent awkward boxing skills.

The fact you think work rate is the only advantage the 6'2 Benavidez has over 5'7 Canelo is hilarious. Lets see.

Size advantage (huge)
Hand speed.
Work rate.
Cardio.
Jab

GGG just had workrate over canelo, and still managed to match him at worst. So imagine Benavidez with far more advantages. It will be a mismatch and Canelo knows it.

It sounds like you have no idea about boxing tbh.

[Combat Talk Radio]

By what logic would saunder be a favourate vs canelo? He is a mediocre fighter at best with zero weapons other than decent awkward boxing skills.

The fact you think work rate is the only advantage the 6'2 Benavidez has over 5'7 Canelo is hilarious. Lets see.

Size advantage (huge)
Hand speed.
Work rate.
Cardio.
Jab

GGG just had workrate over canelo, and still managed to match him at worst. So imagine Benavidez with far more advantages. It will be a mismatch and Canelo knows it.

It sounds like you have no idea about boxing tbh.

Size: guess you forgot that Kov outsized him.

Hand speed: guess you forgot he fought Plant, but ok

Cardio: Canelo has only ever lost two out of damn near 70 fights, so maybe, just maybe, his cardio is good enough to beat 97% of opponents.

Jab: guess you ignored that Golovkin's jab was there all night long in the second fight and it still wasn't enough.


My point is, those aren't advantages. The way to beat Canelo is to basically outwork him. If you can't do that, you're not getting a decision on him. But you already knew that - Hell, Floyd pitched a shutout and even he failed to convince one judge.

So, Benavidez would have to show up. If he went in there fighting like Bum****a, he's taking an L.

[Oracle01]

Size: guess you forgot that Kov outsized him.

Hand speed: guess you forgot he fought Plant, but ok

Cardio: Canelo has only ever lost two out of damn near 70 fights, so maybe, just maybe, his cardio is good enough to beat 97% of opponents.

Jab: guess you ignored that Golovkin's jab was there all night long in the second fight and it still wasn't enough.


My point is, those aren't advantages. The way to beat Canelo is to basically outwork him. If you can't do that, you're not getting a decision on him. But you already knew that - Hell, Floyd pitched a shutout and even he failed to convince one judge.

So, Benavidez would have to show up. If he went in there fighting like Bum****a, he's taking an L.

Just because Kova had a size advantage does not mean Benavidez does not have one, so it still counts as an advantage. lol your logic.

You are hand picking opponents which had 1 advantage, but guess what, Benavidez will be his only opponent which will have basically a whole package of advantages plus he is a power puncher.

Kova was a frail old man who barely threw any big punches all night, he just sat behind a weak jab. Plant had 1 shot hand speed but not combination or power. David does it all plus throws 1000 punches a fight.

I hope you understand the point. Size is an advantage but its not a guarantee by itself. It definitely helped a shot Kova make it a close fight until he got caught.

Benavidez has more advantages than Bivol had other than the feet.

[BodyBagz]

The elephant in the room is how weak RJJ and Tarver's resumes are

[BodyBagz]

Can never have too many threads bashing Nelo
Those who join in are NSB legends
I call them hateful, double standard having, hypocrites who weep the very moment I mention GGG and his sad lil resume.
No version of GGG would EVER have fought Biv, much less another other hyped up, has yet to beat anyone boogeyman being mentioned

Heaven forbid a Nelo fan chimes in on how vastly superior his resume is to his contemporaries

[Combat Talk Radio]

Just because Kova had a size advantage does not mean Benavidez does not have one, so it still counts as an advantage. lol your logic.

You are hand picking opponents which had 1 advantage, but guess what, Benavidez will be his only opponent which will have basically a whole package of advantages plus he is a power puncher.

Kova was a frail old man who barely threw any big punches all night, he just sat behind a weak jab. Plant had 1 shot hand speed but not combination or power. David does it all plus throws 1000 punches a fight.

I hope you understand the point. Size is an advantage but its not a guarantee by itself. It definitely helped a shot Kova make it a close fight until he got caught.

Benavidez has more advantages than Bivol had other than the feet.

"At The End Of The Day" Canelo has already proven he can beat guys who had those traits - meaning they are NOT advantages because Canelo can nullify them.

It doesn't matter if it's one fighter or five.

Bivol had the blend of traits you mention AND higher weight AND youth.

Thus, greater threat and NOT a cherrypick. That's my only point - Bivol was nowhere near a cherrypick. Canelo believed he could beat this threat and make history. Had he beaten Bivol, he would have been considered damn near unstoppable by the media.

The guy tested himself in the best way, not the 'eye test' way (that rhymes).

[Oracle01]

"At The End Of The Day" Canelo has already proven he can beat guys who had those traits - meaning they are NOT advantages because Canelo can nullify them.

It doesn't matter if it's one fighter or five.

Are you thick or something? I specifically explained its not just about having ONE of those traits, its the combination of all of them which makes Benavidez a different animal.

Bivol had the blend of traits you mention AND higher weight AND youth.

Thus, greater threat and NOT a cherrypick. That's my only point - Bivol was nowhere near a cherrypick. Canelo believed he could beat this threat and make history. Had he beaten Bivol, he would have been considered damn near unstoppable by the media.

The guy tested himself in the best way, not the 'eye test' way (that rhymes).

Benavidez is bigger, faster, more powerful than Bivol and far more aggressive. Canelo chose the guy that 95% of people thought he could beat. That is obviously not choosing the toughest option. 95% of people would not pick Canelo over Benavidez. That proves my point, that Bivol was the softest option.

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Bivol wasnt not a ***ing cherry pick. Bivol was arguably the best light heavyweight in the world. Bivol was objectively more skilled and more dangerous than everyone Canelo fought at 168 and not old and shot like Kovalev. You could objectively say Bivol was the highest risk fight for Canelo since GGG 1 and 2. Canelo's management didnt want that fight, canelo wanted it.