Roy Jones Jr. and Antonio Tarver goes off on Canelo for cherrypicking opponents: "Bivol was a cherrypick gone wrong!"

[Oracle01]

"cherrypick"? No.

That doesn't even make sense when you're going up to fight an undefeated champion.

Canelo did what he did to make headlines and draw money.

Roy talking about Andrade - nobody wants to see that.

Benavidez? Maybe but Bivol was obviously a way bigger danger than Benavidez. Toppling Bivol would have been history making.

Tarver calling it a "duck gone wrong" - don't really fully agree with that either. The host nailed it: Light heavyweight became relevant when Canelo fought there. That's what Canelo really wanted to use his star power and draw money while making history. Not just fighting every 'eye test' put in front of him.

It's actually funny since Roy's decline was from him moving up and down in weight. He knows why he went back down but didn't stay there, he had the same vision Canelo has. So just say, "I did that to be great, it didn't work either".

You don't understand what a cherry pick is. It means the easiest option. Nobody with any brains thought pre Canelo Bivol was more dangerous than the Mexican monster, a guy who is bigger, faster, more powerful and about 10x more vicious who destroys all his opponents vs Bivol who looked average vs a domestic UK bum, and has not stopped anyone in his last 7 fights. That is rewriting history. He was definitely viewed as the easier safer fight, which means it was a cherry pick. You mentioned topping Bivol would have made history? Why? Canelo had already won a belt at 175.

I see you failed to mention Beterbiev? Please explain how fighting 1 belt Bivol over 2 belt Beterbiev was not a cherry pick?

Old man GGG and Bivol were legit the softest options out of the ones available.

[Uncle SneakyTouch]

Just because Nelo was favourite it's a cherry pick? Nelo shouldn't have been favourite stop downplaying bivol and overlaying nelo

Lmfao it's a cherry pick how do you choose not to see it?

he was a big favorite and the promoter himself said it was a cherrypick lmao buffoon

[buddyr]

As much as these guys are right, Roy can't talk about anyone cherrypicking. After he beat Toney in 94, it was 1997 before he fought another worthy fighter in Griffin. His fight with Bryant Brannon was a matchup that should not have taken place for a fighter of his caliber at the time. Embarrassing for the sport.

[BaguMka]

It was a cherrypick even Eddie Hearn admitted that. So stop BS

[QueensburyRules]

You don't understand what a cherry pick is. It means the easiest option. Nobody with any brains thought pre Canelo Bivol was more dangerous than the Mexican monster, a guy who is bigger, faster, more powerful and about 10x more vicious who destroys all his opponents vs Bivol who looked average vs a domestic UK bum, and has not stopped anyone in his last 7 fights. That is rewriting history. He was definitely viewed as the easier safer fight, which means it was a cherry pick. You mentioned topping Bivol would have made history? Why? Canelo had already won a belt at 175.

I see you failed to mention Beterbiev? Please explain how fighting 1 belt Bivol over 2 belt Beterbiev was not a cherry pick?

Old man GGG and Bivol were legit the softest options out of the ones available.

- - Who picked U out of the Dingle patch?

[Combat Talk Radio]

You don't understand what a cherry pick is. It means the easiest option.

Correct - which Bivol was not.

Canelo could have pulled anyone from 168. Fedor Chudinov, for example. THAT would be a true cherry pick. Or even Ali Akhmedov, who is highly ranked but whose best win is an aged Gabe Rosado, that's a cherrypick.

Even Shane Mosley Jr, just to sell off of the last name, that's a cherrypick.


Not going UP in weight to fight an UNDEFEATED champion with every advantage. That's not a cherrypick.

[Oracle01]

Correct - which Bivol was not.

Canelo could have pulled anyone from 168. Fedor Chudinov, for example. THAT would be a true cherry pick. Or even Ali Akhmedov, who is highly ranked but whose best win is an aged Gabe Rosado, that's a cherrypick.

Even Shane Mosley Jr, just to sell off of the last name, that's a cherrypick.


Not going UP in weight to fight an UNDEFEATED champion with every advantage. That's not a cherrypick.

huh? Obviously the choices have to be viable ones, not literal nobodies. Out of all the offers on the table Benavidez/ Charlo, and Bivol /40 year old GGG, its clear the former package was more dangerous unless your a canelo fan boy. Bivol is not a dangerous fighter, he barely beat craig richards the fight before Canelo.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I never really rated Bivol before the Alvarez fight. And during the build up to the fight on this forum? Only a few people were backing Bivol with intent.

Myself being honest, I had not seen much of Bivol's fights.

I was not really invested in the fight, so I was not really bothered about the fight during the build up. I did predict that Alvarez would win the fight.

I have since the first fight stated, that I still think Alvarez can win the rematch. Alvarez has a superior inside game, but the only issue is? He does not really have the gears or endurance to impress this attribute like he needs to in order to beat Bivol.

If Alvarez can somehow improve his endurance by 10- 15 %, and then tactically fight the right kind of fight.

The rematch will be a extremely close fight. Bivol is a top fighter, but to me he is only doing basic fundamental things inside the ring.

He beat Alvarez with fitness, endurance and basic boxing from mid-long range. Which does kind show that Alvarez's overall abilities skill for skill have been overrated etc.

[Jsmooth9876]

I love Roy but the dude fought more than his fair share of nobodies over his years at 175

[QueensburyRules]

I never really rated Bivol before the Alvarez fight. And during the build up to the fight on this forum? Only a few people were backing Bivol with intent.

Myself being honest, I had not seen much of Bivol's fights.

I was not really invested in the fight, so I was not really bothered about the fight during the build up. I did predict that Alvarez would win the fight.

I have since the first fight stated, that I still think Alvarez can win the rematch. Alvarez has a superior inside game, but the only issue is? He does not really have the gears or endurance to impress this attribute like he needs to in order to beat Bivol.

If Alvarez can somehow improve his endurance by 10- 15 %, and then tactically fight the right kind of fight.

The rematch will be a extremely close fight. Bivol is a top fighter, but to me he is only doing basic fundamental things inside the ring.

He beat Alvarez with fitness, endurance and basic boxing from mid-long range. Which does kind show that Alvarez's overall abilities skill for skill have been overrated etc.

- - More like Canelo over bloated in Accolades and Purses with his own jet and yacht, the silk sheets dilemma Marvin Hagler faced as he wound down his career.

Bivol is a very underrated fighter capable of beating any LH in history. He showed up when it mattered vs Canelo, but with boxing in a general decline, he won't get the great accolades of a Mike Spink or Bob Foster