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  • #21
    Originally posted by Gideon Samual View Post

    He looks basic in there at times, but man can you imagine the pressure round after round. David just smiling every time he hits you and hurts you. I think David is underrated he's a real throwback fighter seems to throw with bad intentions I mean he was sparring Kelly pavlik at 14. I was talking to fighthype in YouTube comments one time and he mentioned benavidez dropping bivol in sparring recently. I think that speaks to his ability. Bivol is one of the best currently.
    Yeah he doesn’t have great defense, he’s there to be hit, but he has a chin.

    I didn’t know he was sparring Pavlik at 14. That’s nuts.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Gideon Samual View Post

      I can't say I'm surprised bro, the issue plant will have is not having the gastank to move all 12 rounds, From the accumulative effect of being punched and drained by the front foot pressure of David. Can he avoid those 50/50 exchanges late on and once those feet slow will he be a sitting duck? I think the fight will then resemble rounds 10 + 11 of the canelo fight.
      That's how I saw the fight going too, when it was first announced. But now will Benavidez have the footwork to cut off the ring, in a 22 ft. ring? He doesn't have the fastest feet.

      This has introduced some doubt in my mind.

      Gideon lock Gideon lock likes this.

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      • #23
        More than confident caleb will give DB a run for his money...and the toughest fight of his career so far. That been said, i will also be extremely impressed if benavidez makes easy work of sweet cheeks.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by b morph View Post

          Yeah he doesn’t have great defense, he’s there to be hit, but he has a chin.

          I didn’t know he was sparring Pavlik at 14. That’s nuts.
          Good point bro and here's some footage against pavlik he's 15 in this.. https://********/i0sHWweGZY4

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Gideon Samual View Post

            Good point bro and here's some footage against pavlik he's 15 in this.. https://********/i0sHWweGZY4
            Crazy bro. Yeah usually once kids hit puberty and start putting on some muscle, usually that age. 14 or 15 yrs old, they’re basically no longer kids. They’re young men. Literally they’re not kids. Their bodies change.

            I notice a lot of times, around 130’s or 140’s, that’s the weight where you start to feel power on the punches. So if you got a mid teens young man around that weight, it can be scary if they know what they’re doing. Their muscles are young and fresh and they’re only gonna get bigger and stronger.

            You can outlast them though cuz they get too excited and waste their energy early, but man. Early on, they’re a tough out.

            I spar a 16 yr old heavyweight and I can tire him out with a high work rate, but he always leaves a mark on me somewhere and his shear size tires me out too.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Gideon Samual View Post

              Good point bro and here's some footage against pavlik he's 15 in this.. https://********/i0sHWweGZY4
              Thanks for that clip, incredible how poised,strong and quick he was there at 14-15yrs old. Reminiscent of the sparring footage/performance of Oscar sparring Chavez Sr at the same age.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Gideon Samual View Post

                Good point bro and here's some footage against pavlik he's 15 in this.. https://********/i0sHWweGZY4
                Wow, young DB had no issue with firing back right after getting tagged by KP! That showed he had a lot of moxy even at a young age.

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                • #28
                  "Stephen Edwards: Caleb wants to fight Canelo again. So he's earning it by fighting a fighter that Canelo doesn't seem to want to fight."

                  Plant will see quickly why Canelo doesn't want to fight Benavidez.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by b morph View Post

                    Crazy bro. Yeah usually once kids hit puberty and start putting on some muscle, usually that age. 14 or 15 yrs old, they’re basically no longer kids. They’re young men. Literally they’re not kids. Their bodies change.

                    I notice a lot of times, around 130’s or 140’s, that’s the weight where you start to feel power on the punches. So if you got a mid teens young man around that weight, it can be scary if they know what they’re doing. Their muscles are young and fresh and they’re only gonna get bigger and stronger.

                    You can outlast them though cuz they get too excited and waste their energy early, but man. Early on, they’re a tough out.

                    I spar a 16 yr old heavyweight and I can tire him out with a high work rate, but he always leaves a mark on me somewhere and his shear size tires me out too.
                    That's a good point you made. Around that age lots of changes happen to the body some beneficial some not. I think it's crazy David was around all of that at 15 and could perform like that. Really puts into perspective his ability to work.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Sctrojan View Post

                      Thanks for that clip, incredible how poised,strong and quick he was there at 14-15yrs old. Reminiscent of the sparring footage/performance of Oscar sparring Chavez Sr at the same age.
                      Your welcome man, I haven't seen that clip I'll go check it out. I like to watch prime Oscar

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