Why is losing once so horrible in the sport of boxing?

[elfag]

There are so many boxers and so few high paying TV dates. If you're not a giant star or a world champion, your value to a TV network is essentially zero. If you lose, there are a hundred other guys who haven't gotten their opportunity that want your spot.

In MMA, where the general public only cares about one particular league (UFC), the league has an incentive to recycle their guys after losses rather than having to build someone new.

In boxing, where you have dozens of promoters trying to get their guy an opportunity, when your guy loses, there are 15 other guys with 15 different promoters all saying it should be their turn next.

This, with no central control, boxing match ups and payout are basically a popularity contest. Youtubers quickly realized this and it makes sense their entire job has been a popularity contest and love them or hate them they became masters at getting the public's attention.

You can see why Dana White wont let youtubers fight his guys, even if he would make a lot of money off a given fight, it will make a mockery of his brand and hurt them in the long run, so he freezes them out. Pro boxing there is no real restrictions on entering the market as long as you have the money and fame to do it.

ABC organizations with their rankings supposedly objective ratings and decisions would be the solution to this but they are inheriently biased. Their number 1 problem is taking their cut as a percentage of the purse instead of flat rate. Now they are incentivized to have the most popular aka highest selling fighters installed as champions and that is why we see them basically make up the rules as they go along. Making up belts like the diamond belt or whatever, jumping in and protecting Canelo by saying Bivol cant fight for canelo's WBC belt at 168, essentially making it impossible for Bivol to be undisputed at that division. Giving Tim Tszyu a belt instead of making him fight the 2nd in line guy for it ect.

[al-Xander]

Vergil Ortiz vs Terence Crawford would have been a hell of a fight back then. There's also Ortiz vs Ennis. What else?

It's a horrible sport where losing is the end of one's career, instead of being taken as learning experience or momentary derailment.

Fans are missing a lot because of it. Those fights were very possible back then, but now it's almost a certainty they're never going back.

[al-Xander]

It is not so bad to lose a fight. As a matter of fact, you probably learned more in your losing effort than you ever did in many of your wins..................Rockin'

Bottom line is, there's no guarantee every fight you take will always be a win. Even then losing is really not that bad.

[al-Xander]

There are so many boxers and so few high paying TV dates. If you're not a giant star or a world champion, your value to a TV network is essentially zero. If you lose, there are a hundred other guys who haven't gotten their opportunity that want your spot.

In MMA, where the general public only cares about one particular league (UFC), the league has an incentive to recycle their guys after losses rather than having to build someone new.

In boxing, where you have dozens of promoters trying to get their guy an opportunity, when your guy loses, there are 15 other guys with 15 different promoters all saying it should be their turn next.

Which is why I never understood this network fanboyism. One network can't accommodate all these existing fighters and give them dates. The money is simply not there.

[joesaiditstrue]

I can't think of any sport that depicts this strange malady. Fighters in other contact sport like MMA/UFC can fight multiple times regardless of loses. In basketball, one on one tennis, baseball, football, you name it, no such thing as this silliness in boxing.

it isn't. you're putting too much emphasis on the opinions of casual fans who DKSAB who neckbeard all day on message boards

look at the posters on NSB who talk the most ****, and look at their posts per day, it's insane.

[al-Xander]

Isn't this the root cause of all the negative things that are happening in this sport? You have guys like Stevenson and De Los Santos terrified of making any move in their fight to engage and would rather get booed. They can't even use the high guard to open up each other. They're terrified of losing.

[h2k]

we are in era of boxers who are scared to lose the 0 and just cherry pick his opponent to remain undefeated.

[h2k]

But seriously every boxer wants to be undefeated and will do anything to stay undefeated and the main reason why every undefeated fighter now only pick opponents they think they can easily beat.

[tomhawq]

it isn't. you're putting too much emphasis on the opinions of casual fans who DKSAB who neckbeard all day on message boards

look at the posters on NSB who talk the most ****, and look at their posts per day, it's insane.

Nah. It's not the casuals. It's the hardcore fans themselves. You'll hear things from so-called real fans say: "He too young doe. He not ready yet doe. Fight needs to be marinated first doe. He getting lowballed doe, making the opportunity or shot totally with zero value; thus retirement check is essential totally disregarding the fact that winning comes with more money and potential.

Stop fooling yourself it's the casuals.

[johncods]

I don't think it's just records. A lot of boxers today come from middle class families.. Boxers back the used to come from abject poverty.

A lot of Boxers today aren't natural fighters. They box because of the lifestyle and the reward. Before it used to be to get you out of poverty