Is Alvarez a Mid-Level ATG OR High-Level ATG

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What are his ATG in ring performances?

That’s a good point tbf. I can never remember Canelo dominating a great fighter.

Saunders or Plant is probably his best performance IMO.

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Carl Froch, Joe Calzagle both would of beaten Alvarez and badly. I have never really rated Alvarez as a all-time great Middle-Weight 'I don't see the performances'.

You have to ask yourself the honest question? Is Canelo Alvarez beating any all-time great Middle Weights?

Is he beating Roy Jones Junior, Bernard Hopkins, Joe Calzaghe, Carl Froch, Chris Eubank Senior, James Toney, Nigel Benn, the list goes on.

A lot of these guys are beating him, in my opinion. Alvarez has been beaten twice now, with the most simplistic and straight forward of game plans.

What makes Alvarez a all-time great is basically the era he has fought in, and his extreme ability to weight drain himself to fight at 147-154 pounds.

Canelo Alvarez statistically due to the belts he has won, and titles 'The man is a all-time great'. But skill for skill, and even physically? I don't think this man is a high all-time great. Alvarez is not a monster puncher, lacks gears, and has under par endurance etc.

Carl Froch also would of beaten Golovkin at the time, they were in talks to fight. By far too physically strong, endurance off the charts, solid jab and extremely heavy power 'It would be a way more competitive fight than Alvarez for Froch, but a fight Carl Froch would still win'.

Froch loses to both. He has no inside game and GGG jabs his head off. He couldn’t live with either technically and Canelo and GGG are far too well schooled to just brawl with Froch.

Canelo beats Benn and Eubank too. You remind me of how deluded I was back in the 90’s thinking Benn and Eubank were elite fighters in reality they a league below the US champs like Roy, Toney, even Nunn. Eubank wasn’t even a legitimate world champion in hindsight.

Calzaghe would present a stylistic problem for both. They ain’t beating him on points, however they are both capable of hurting him and potentially stopping him.

[moochi]

No level whatsoever he's a PED cheat, lost half of his high level fights and just a marketing machine due to his orange hair and being Mexican.

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For now he's one of the greatest Mexican fighters ever.

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Calzaghe would present a stylistic problem for both. They ain’t beating him on points, however they are both capable of hurting him and potentially stopping him.

Calzaghe doesn't beat Canelo on points? I think Canelo barely wins any rounds, it would be similar to Bivol fight. Canelo was even with Plant until he stopped him.

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Carl Froch, Joe Calzagle both would of beaten Alvarez and badly. I have never really rated Alvarez as a all-time great Middle-Weight 'I don't see the performances'.

You have to ask yourself the honest question? Is Canelo Alvarez beating any all-time great Middle Weights?

Is he beating Roy Jones Junior, Bernard Hopkins, Joe Calzaghe, Carl Froch, Chris Eubank Senior, James Toney, Nigel Benn, the list goes on.

A lot of these guys are beating him, in my opinion. Alvarez has been beaten twice now, with the most simplistic and straight forward of game plans.

What makes Alvarez a all-time great is basically the era he has fought in, and his extreme ability to weight drain himself to fight at 147-154 pounds.

Canelo Alvarez statistically due to the belts he has won, and titles 'The man is a all-time great'. But skill for skill, and even physically? I don't think this man is a high all-time great. Alvarez is not a monster puncher, lacks gears, and has under par endurance etc.

Carl Froch also would of beaten Golovkin at the time, they were in talks to fight. By far too physically strong, endurance off the charts, solid jab and extremely heavy power 'It would be a way more competitive fight than Alvarez for Froch, but a fight Carl Froch would still win'.

They better beat him “badly”, that’s the least they can do to a former 154lb champion.

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They better beat him “badly”, that’s the least they can do to a former 154lb champion.

Alvarez does not yo yo up and down the weights during the 90's or even early 2000's. I think Alvarez would of been beaten soon as he wondered into the middle weight divisions during those era's, maybe even by non-title fighter.

Alvarez is a all-time great fighter statistically, but skill for skill or physically I don't rate him as a all-time great Middle - Weight. I don't see the wins, and don't see the performances or ability.

Alvarez potentially might not win a round vs Calzaghe. And Froch would do what Golovkin really should of done, which was over power and beat down Alvarez etc.

Canelo Alvarez of course overall is a all-time great fighter. But specifically as a middle-weight, I don't rate him as a all-time great fighter. Alvarez all-time great ranking comes from the belts and championships he has achieved 'By jumping up and down the divisions'.

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Ring - Is he even top 50?
Cash - Top 10-15

[Dubblechin]

Canelo Alvarez is an all-time great fighter.

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Calzaghe doesn't beat Canelo on points? I think Canelo barely wins any rounds, it would be similar to Bivol fight. Canelo was even with Plant until he stopped him.

There’s no way they beat Calzaghe on points is what I was saying. They’d have to stop him to win.