Is Alvarez a Mid-Level ATG OR High-Level ATG

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #11
    Carl Froch, Joe Calzagle both would of beaten Alvarez and badly. I have never really rated Alvarez as a all-time great Middle-Weight 'I don't see the performances'.

    You have to ask yourself the honest question? Is Canelo Alvarez beating any all-time great Middle Weights?

    Is he beating Roy Jones Junior, Bernard Hopkins, Joe Calzaghe, Carl Froch, Chris Eubank Senior, James Toney, Nigel Benn, the list goes on.

    A lot of these guys are beating him, in my opinion. Alvarez has been beaten twice now, with the most simplistic and straight forward of game plans.

    What makes Alvarez a all-time great is basically the era he has fought in, and his extreme ability to weight drain himself to fight at 147-154 pounds.

    Canelo Alvarez statistically due to the belts he has won, and titles 'The man is a all-time great'. But skill for skill, and even physically? I don't think this man is a high all-time great. Alvarez is not a monster puncher, lacks gears, and has under par endurance etc.

    Carl Froch also would of beaten Golovkin at the time, they were in talks to fight. By far too physically strong, endurance off the charts, solid jab and extremely heavy power 'It would be a way more competitive fight than Alvarez for Froch, but a fight Carl Froch would still win'.
    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-20-2022, 08:11 PM.

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    • Hustle
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      #12
      He doesnt have a win over a prime hall of famer on his resume yet

      Mosley was 40
      Cotto was 36
      Golovkin was 35 and 40

      Its mid right now

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      • Oracle01
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        #13
        What are his ATG in ring performances?

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        • Silence
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          #14
          Originally posted by Quiksilva
          Up there for sure in terms of big names.

          I rate him in the top 10.
          What's your top 10 ATG list?

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          • eco1
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            #15
            B+ fighter but a cashew who gets the wins before entering the ring.

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            • garfios
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              #16
              Originally posted by TheIronMike
              He's with the likes of Matthew Saad Mahammad, Terry Norris, Winky Wright

              I noticed how ******ed people are about this red head kid when I saw the results of the Ezzard Charles vs Canelo thread last month.
              For real, he whooped Ezzard Charles A$$? Wow, the fanboys never fails to amuse me.

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              • Brother Mouzone
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                #17
                He is an high level ATG of his era , but in the grand scheme he is mid .

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                • Uncle SneakyTouch
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Hype job
                  Might have been a good idea to put up a poll...
                  To be fair OP is an idiot so not entirely his fault.

                  Lmfao at carnelo being an atg at all

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                  • QueensburyRules
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                    Just how great is the Alvarez
                    - - First we gotta figure out if U just plain jane Aunt Bernice or Aunt Bernice in drag posing as her grandpa.

                    Well, got any pics?

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                    • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

                      Yeah whoops

                      My personal opinion he’s currently a mid-level atg. About level with Oscar
                      Oscar’s definitely above him IMO. Oscar’s career choices earn him a lot of credit. He fought prime Quartey, prime Trinidad, prime Mosley, prime Hopkins, prime Mayweather and prime Pacquiao. Even if he lost a lot of those fights, he chose to take them when he didn’t necessarily have to, that’s part of being a great.

                      Canelo had the chance to fight a prime Golovkin but instead chose to wait him out. The best fighter he beat in his prime was Lara and he while very good was never elite IMO. Canelo has some elite names on the resume but none of them were at their peak. Oscar has those type of wins over Whitaker and Chavez and then also has several good wins over Hernandez, Paez, Vargas, Quartey etc.

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