Comments Thread For: Stevenson Says He May Fight Kambosos Next, Says Cruz and Zepeda Turned Him Down

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  • pretty boy_
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    #21
    Originally posted by Jab jab boom
    And this is why I miss when the “warrior” status was actually accurate when talking about guys like Barrera and morales and Marquez. These days you have Zepeda and Cruz shook to take a fight with a guy making his debut in a weight class when he didn’t even have a a ko% in a smaller weight class. Where the outrage from the fan base that loves to accuse everyone else of ducking?

    ^This all day. The new age raza fighters aren’t cut from the same cloth as the old school Mex fighters. Can you image Jose Luis Castillo or Jesus Chavez turning down a Mayweather fight back in the day? Shameful stuff.

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    • OnePunch
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      #22
      Originally posted by Corelone
      I don't think Shakur is going about this right. Like ringing doorbells and running. He names Zepeda and Cruz, but skips Tank and Haney. They're not ducking too?
      why waste time on call outs that have no chance of happening?

      Haney is tied up till next summer with Loma, and Tank has a tune up and then Garcia in April, so he wont be available until next fall. So why bother calling them out? Because if he does, then people just say "oh he's only calling them out because he knows they are unavailable"

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      • Corelone
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        #23
        Originally posted by Cyborg Fangerloo
        Who? I am not arguing or starting something. I am actually asking.
        Tank and Haney. Are they ducking too?

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        • tomhawq
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          #24
          Kambosos is the only one expected to step up as I have predicted in one of my past posts about this Stevenson callouts. He's got nothing to lose.

          Bulldog Garcia became Puppy Garcia. Zepeda after initially expressing disgust over his name being dragged, then challenged Shakura to send a contract, which Stevenson did, is now quiet like a sneaking ****roach into the night.
          Last edited by tomhawq; 12-14-2022, 02:11 PM.

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          • Rebelrbg
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            #25
            Originally posted by kiaba360

            The damage that Cruz and Zepeda would do to each other is considered a reward!? Both are contenders who should be fighting each other in an eliminator. Stevenson hasn't done anything yet at LW, so it's understandable that Cruz/Zepeda won't want to risk their spot against him. Shakur just needs to be patient because he has the skill/talent and a machine behind him, so his time will come. Just stay busy and don't let the public forget your name.

            Stevenson said on Twitter that Kambosos didn't accept the fight either. After Kambosos' last two bouts, I can't blame him. That dude needs a break and a bounce-back fight.
            Yes, that is rewarding them by letting them go around the rankings and still get a top fight that will pay them good money. There's a system in place for a reason. Because Shakur was a unified champion that couldn't make 130 anymore, he was placed third when he moved up, with Cruz second, and Zepeda fourth. He's requested a fight that was already ordered by the sanctioning body from Cruz, and got ducked. So, he requested a fight for the next highest ranking fighter, which is how the system is SUPPOSED to work, in Zepeda, and he ducked him as well. But, you want them to allow the two ducks to fight each other, which would be a big fight for good money? Make it make sense.

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            • archiemoore1
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              #26
              I have love for Pitbull because he's a bad little man. He's smiles and is quiet and looks like a kid, but he comes to fight and to knock u out.
              One thing about Kambosos. He's either gonna take an asswhipping or give one, but i don't believe he's turning down any challengers. He could've milked his titles, fought lesser opponents and kept the titles in Australia for awhile but he took on Devin, knowing that wouldn't be an easy opponent. He had to know he could lose that one. He gave Devin an opportunity when he didn't have to. Boxers today generally don't do what he did. They avoid tough challengers because they're scared if they lose, there goes their "0", or their marketability and/or their earning power. Fighters today care more about their views and their fan base than they do about being the best and taking on the toughest challenges. Thats out the window in modern boxing for the most part

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              • hhh1200
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                #27
                Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                I said it before, Shakur is not fuc king around. He wants to fight top opponents and can't secure one. He really wants to make a case for himself to challenge for the titles.
                Not fair he trains with Ward and Crawford if people didn't notice this weekend he was in the Crawford corner. Advanced HofF/ATG training free of charge, not fair. I think he smokes the whole group at 135 including cabbage patch. You're stuck with him at 135 and if you try to up there is Prograis Taylor and Ramirez.
                Last edited by hhh1200; 12-14-2022, 03:50 PM.

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                • Boxfan83
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                  #28
                  Lol at Spence fans calling anyone a duck.

                  Tea, meet Kettle....

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                  • Jab jab boom
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by pretty boy_


                    ^This all day. The new age raza fighters aren’t cut from the same cloth as the old school Mex fighters. Can you image Jose Luis Castillo or Jesus Chavez turning down a Mayweather fight back in the day? Shameful stuff.
                    Exactly, and those guys you mentioned took that fight before mayweather was the megastar that brought mega paydays. They fought him to try and prove themselves and gave a good account of themselves. These dudes aren’t built like that anymore.

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                    • kiaba360
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Rebelrbg

                      Yes, that is rewarding them by letting them go around the rankings and still get a top fight that will pay them good money. There's a system in place for a reason. Because Shakur was a unified champion that couldn't make 130 anymore, he was placed third when he moved up, with Cruz second, and Zepeda fourth. He's requested a fight that was already ordered by the sanctioning body from Cruz, and got ducked. So, he requested a fight for the next highest ranking fighter, which is how the system is SUPPOSED to work, in Zepeda, and he ducked him as well. But, you want them to allow the two ducks to fight each other, which would be a big fight for good money? Make it make sense.
                      If the WBC wants to penalize Cruz/Zepeda, they can do it by making the winner face Stevenson in a final eliminator. Has a sanctioning body ever fuxked with a contender's purse like you're suggesting they do to Cruz/Zepeda? That would be a great way to piss fighters off.
                      Current rankings:
                      WBC: Cruz (2), Shakur (3), Zepeda (4)
                      WBA: Zepeda (3), Shakur (5), Cruz (7)
                      IBF: Cruz (4), Shakur (5), Zepeda (unranked)
                      WBO: Shakur (2), Cruz (3), Zepeda (6)​

                      Even if WBC chose to penalize them, Cruz/Zepeda is still a match-up of significance for the WBA/WBO. Shakur just needs to face someone ranked and stay sharp/disciplined.
                      Last edited by kiaba360; 12-14-2022, 04:32 PM.

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